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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#252826: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:44:01 PM

Mind you, many Republican states turned down Obamacare so they could keep medicine from their poor and thus thinking the Democrats don't want their family to die.

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#252827: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:44:30 PM

At this point I pretty much tune out anyone who uses "fake news" unironically. It's a pretty reliable sign that they are full of shit.

What if said news is FOX?

Edited by RainingMetal on Aug 22nd 2018 at 9:46:47 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#252828: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:46:34 PM

Most of the time the people who I've heard criticizing it just say "FOX News". Because at this point that's all that really needs to be said.

Whenever I criticize FOX News, I don't call it "fake news" either. I call it a rightwing propaganda network.

Generally speaking, if someone tries to dismiss criticism and accusations by calling them "fake news" and blaming the media...they're full of shit.

Edited by M84 on Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:47:56 PM

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#252829: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:50:43 PM

I like to call FOX News fake news because it allows me to use the pun "FEUX News". Also because of their blatant lack of journalistic integrity, but mostly because of the pun.

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#252830: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:51:43 PM

What if they proceed to offer a well-thought-out explanation of WHY it's fake news?

Not that you can expect most people who use the term to be able to do that.

and the Fox News thing works, for the pun if nothing else.

Edited by TroperOnAStickV2 on Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:53:52 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#252831: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:56:28 PM

[up]The spoilered part is kind of my point. Also, it's real life. You don't really need to put this sort of thing behind a spoiler.

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#252832: Aug 22nd 2018 at 8:10:27 PM

I've heard various stories on the "we're not listening to Cohen and Manafort getting raked over the coals" murder case, none of them good for the Republicans. One of them is that the suspect is a legal immigrant, another being that even if he was illegal, the farm that hired him is owned by prominent Republicans.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#252833: Aug 22nd 2018 at 8:41:46 PM

surprised

I expect the right wing to keep hammering at the fact that he was an illegal immigrant, though. The right wing is excellent at hypocrisy.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#252834: Aug 22nd 2018 at 8:47:12 PM

The focus has always been on the immigrants themselves, never the actual people employing them. The reasons for that seem fairly obvious.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#252835: Aug 22nd 2018 at 8:56:38 PM

It took Trump a few hours to respond to a white woman being killed by an immigrant. It took him three days to respond when the murderer was a white supremacist.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#252836: Aug 22nd 2018 at 9:00:52 PM

My Brother-in-law is a staunch Republican who hires almost exclusively immigrants. I'm wondering what his position on immigration is precisely.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#252837: Aug 22nd 2018 at 9:04:32 PM

Anyone have any ideas what he’s on about?

I have asked Secretary of State @Sec Pompeo to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.” @Tucker Carlson @Fox News

Sounds dog whistle-ly to me.

Edited by megaeliz on Aug 22nd 2018 at 12:06:57 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#252838: Aug 22nd 2018 at 9:06:16 PM

[up]More pandering to the white supremacists.

[up][up]You could always ask him, though I suspect doing so would make the next family reunion a bit awkward.

Edited by M84 on Aug 23rd 2018 at 12:07:13 AM

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#252839: Aug 22nd 2018 at 9:23:36 PM

[up][up]That’s not a dog whistle, that’s an air horn.

I haven’t read anything on this in a few weeks, to the best of my recollection, basically, the South African government is planning to confiscate/redistribute land, because current land ownership is about the same as it was under apartheid; in other words, like 80% or more of the nation’s private land is in the hands of descendants of the Boers who murdered and subjugated the native peoples.

Edited by wisewillow on Aug 22nd 2018 at 12:27:25 PM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#252840: Aug 22nd 2018 at 9:31:35 PM

Land redistribution is always an enormous pain in the ass and this will probably get worse before it gets better. Because as people here show, farming is a changing industry and unless its state supported, mom and pop farms are doomed.

Generally, the rich are always there to grab more land when they fail.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 22nd 2018 at 9:32:11 AM

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#252841: Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:04:27 PM

[up]x10: I know I don't, I've developed a tendency to put snark behind spoilers.

Edited by TroperOnAStickV2 on Aug 22nd 2018 at 1:04:11 PM

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#252842: Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:11:25 PM

@M84:

I could. It helps that I myself am a Republican (not a Trump supporter, though) and they probably fall under the category of "Trump is a lesser evil", a mentality I've seen in most Republicans I know. I have yet to meet a Republican admit to supporting Trump in the primaries.

It helps that there are plenty of other issues that would prevent them from voting Hillary.

I don't think it'd be too awkward, because I am still a card-carrying Republican myself and he's a very nice guy and I myself am good at cordial debates (I once had a debate on abortion with a random lady I met on a bus. Nobody raised their voice, and we met up later and she was friendly toward me). Though admittedly I probably won't because I also don't particularly care about his political views.

And this political culture today is downright toxic-I can't even mention the President's favorite sandwich without it starting an argument.

Edited by Protagonist506 on Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:19:18 AM

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#252843: Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:14:25 PM

Y'know, there's something fascinating about that tweet to me, in that it's evidence of a mindset that I consider to be completely alien.

Consider, for a moment, the question of why he'd even bring that up. It's not like it's a hot button issue with the voters, or like he has any ability to influence how it goes. He brought it up totally of his own accord, basically to nothing other than signal his racism in a way that a layperson won't catch but similarly racist people will understand.

Which, of course, is textbook dogwhisling, but Trump here can't even be said to have to cynical political motivation usually ascribed to that- he's already pretty much got the Racist Vote locked down; politically speaking, dogwhisling does him no further good.

So the conclusion we draw from this is that he's doing this because he's proud to be a racist. He considers the fact that he thinks the amount of melanin in your skin determines your worth as a person to be one of his good qualities. That's a mindset I cannot comprehend.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#252844: Aug 22nd 2018 at 11:23:50 PM

[up]Of course he's proud of it. So are a lot of his supporters. Shit, the main reason they think society is "unfair" to them is because society has become less and less accomodating of the bigotry upon which they have created their own personal identities and status.

For a lot of Trump supporters, the traits that most of us here find abhorrent — the bigotry, the anti-intellectualism — are features, not bugs.

[up][up]It's been toxic for a while. When you've got people throwing shit at a President for eating arugula you know there's a problem. And then there was that ridiculous brouhaha over the umbrella...

Edited by M84 on Aug 23rd 2018 at 2:27:05 AM

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#252845: Aug 22nd 2018 at 11:48:27 PM

Regarding Republicans and disasters, remember how Chris Christie was caught between the demands of being a Republican (and thus hating on Obama above all else) and being the governor of New Jersey in the middle of a state of emergency?

Republicans bashed Christie when the latter went off script and asked the President for FEMA help for his own state in the middle of an emergency. They have no sense of irony.

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#252846: Aug 23rd 2018 at 1:00:59 AM

Seems Individual-1note  is on Fox and Friends today from 6 am to 9 am. Just in case he melts down on TV...

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#252847: Aug 23rd 2018 at 2:03:12 AM

Fox News poll: support for Mueller probe up 11% since July.

Currently at 59% approve, 37% disapprove.

July was at 48/40.

June was 55/37.

Edited by tclittle on Aug 23rd 2018 at 4:02:49 AM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#252848: Aug 23rd 2018 at 3:21:49 AM

Well, it is harder to claim that a witch hunt is going on when actual criminals are caught left and right.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#252850: Aug 23rd 2018 at 4:21:38 AM

I wonder when the Republicans will start noticing that while Trump can get away with being a Karma Houdini, the more they do actual crimes, the more they're getting arrested.

California, New York, Manafort, and Cohen.

Plus lots and lots of destroyed careers.

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