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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Most of the time the people who I've heard criticizing it just say "FOX News". Because at this point that's all that really needs to be said.
Whenever I criticize FOX News, I don't call it "fake news" either. I call it a rightwing propaganda network.
Generally speaking, if someone tries to dismiss criticism and accusations by calling them "fake news" and blaming the media...they're full of shit.
Edited by M84 on Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:47:56 PM
Disgusted, but not surprisedWhat if they proceed to offer a well-thought-out explanation of WHY it's fake news?
Not that you can expect most people who use the term to be able to do that.
and the Fox News thing works, for the pun if nothing else.
Edited by TroperOnAStickV2 on Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:53:52 AM
Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.I've heard various stories on the "we're not listening to Cohen and Manafort getting raked over the coals" murder case, none of them good for the Republicans. One of them is that the suspect is a legal immigrant, another being that even if he was illegal, the farm that hired him is owned by prominent Republicans.
My Brother-in-law is a staunch Republican who hires almost exclusively immigrants. I'm wondering what his position on immigration is precisely.
Leviticus 19:34Anyone have any ideas what he’s on about?
Sounds dog whistle-ly to me.
Edited by megaeliz on Aug 22nd 2018 at 12:06:57 PM
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That’s not a dog whistle, that’s an air horn.
I haven’t read anything on this in a few weeks, to the best of my recollection, basically, the South African government is planning to confiscate/redistribute land, because current land ownership is about the same as it was under apartheid; in other words, like 80% or more of the nation’s private land is in the hands of descendants of the Boers who murdered and subjugated the native peoples.
Edited by wisewillow on Aug 22nd 2018 at 12:27:25 PM
Land redistribution is always an enormous pain in the ass and this will probably get worse before it gets better. Because as people here show, farming is a changing industry and unless its state supported, mom and pop farms are doomed.
Generally, the rich are always there to grab more land when they fail.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 22nd 2018 at 9:32:11 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.@M84:
I could. It helps that I myself am a Republican (not a Trump supporter, though) and they probably fall under the category of "Trump is a lesser evil", a mentality I've seen in most Republicans I know. I have yet to meet a Republican admit to supporting Trump in the primaries.
It helps that there are plenty of other issues that would prevent them from voting Hillary.
I don't think it'd be too awkward, because I am still a card-carrying Republican myself and he's a very nice guy and I myself am good at cordial debates (I once had a debate on abortion with a random lady I met on a bus. Nobody raised their voice, and we met up later and she was friendly toward me). Though admittedly I probably won't because I also don't particularly care about his political views.
And this political culture today is downright toxic-I can't even mention the President's favorite sandwich without it starting an argument.
Edited by Protagonist506 on Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:19:18 AM
Leviticus 19:34Y'know, there's something fascinating about that tweet to me, in that it's evidence of a mindset that I consider to be completely alien.
Consider, for a moment, the question of why he'd even bring that up. It's not like it's a hot button issue with the voters, or like he has any ability to influence how it goes. He brought it up totally of his own accord, basically to nothing other than signal his racism in a way that a layperson won't catch but similarly racist people will understand.
Which, of course, is textbook dogwhisling, but Trump here can't even be said to have to cynical political motivation usually ascribed to that- he's already pretty much got the Racist Vote locked down; politically speaking, dogwhisling does him no further good.
So the conclusion we draw from this is that he's doing this because he's proud to be a racist. He considers the fact that he thinks the amount of melanin in your skin determines your worth as a person to be one of his good qualities. That's a mindset I cannot comprehend.
Of course he's proud of it. So are a lot of his supporters. Shit, the main reason they think society is "unfair" to them is because society has become less and less accomodating of the bigotry upon which they have created their own personal identities and status.
For a lot of Trump supporters, the traits that most of us here find abhorrent — the bigotry, the anti-intellectualism — are features, not bugs.
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It's been toxic for a while. When you've got people throwing shit at a President for eating arugula you know there's a problem. And then there was that ridiculous brouhaha over the umbrella...
Edited by M84 on Aug 23rd 2018 at 2:27:05 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedRegarding Republicans and disasters, remember how Chris Christie was caught between the demands of being a Republican (and thus hating on Obama above all else) and being the governor of New Jersey in the middle of a state of emergency?
Republicans bashed Christie when the latter went off script and asked the President for FEMA help for his own state in the middle of an emergency. They have no sense of irony.
Fox News poll: support for Mueller probe up 11% since July.
Currently at 59% approve, 37% disapprove.
July was at 48/40.
June was 55/37.
Edited by tclittle on Aug 23rd 2018 at 4:02:49 AM
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."I wonder when the Republicans will start noticing that while Trump can get away with being a Karma Houdini, the more they do actual crimes, the more they're getting arrested.
California, New York, Manafort, and Cohen.
Plus lots and lots of destroyed careers.
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Mind you, many Republican states turned down Obamacare so they could keep medicine from their poor and thus thinking the Democrats don't want their family to die.
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