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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#252801: Aug 22nd 2018 at 3:04:42 PM

Just slap some pictures of Appalachian white women losing their white as snow babies and the bill might be...

Ignored as usual, the Reps don't give a fuck unless you are making a 6 figure or higher monthly income and contribute to their campaigns.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#252802: Aug 22nd 2018 at 3:06:39 PM

[up]Bills are not being suggested because they'll pass, they're being suggested to set precedent and encourage other Democrats to support them if/when we control Congress.

That and the attack ads for Republicans voting against it are always useful.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Snipertoaster from Mind Your Business (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#252803: Aug 22nd 2018 at 3:18:58 PM

In regards to Trump, I'm fairly certain that news has broken of how much he's in bed with Russia several times, but each time he's shrugged it off, and it's already established that the GOP are tunneled so far up Trump's arse they can see out of his mouth. I'm honestly quite cynical about these revelations having much of an effect, especially on the voting public (given that the left are baying for Los Naranja Grande's blood and the right deify him). If this does demonstrably hurt him though, I'll be happy.

TL;DR: I'll believe it when I see it.

We can choose to be better.
Imca (Veteran)
#252804: Aug 22nd 2018 at 3:21:27 PM

TBH I think they will actualy give a shit about Hawaii...

Not because of the people, but because its a popular vacation resort.... I mean where else are they going to go during there time off if they have to see ruined state from there high rise on the ocean.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#252805: Aug 22nd 2018 at 3:22:26 PM

[up][up]What are you referring to?

[up]Yeah exactly, Hawaii isn't really something you can just ignore.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 22nd 2018 at 6:22:05 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#252806: Aug 22nd 2018 at 4:23:56 PM

They won't want to help for that reason yes, but unlike Puerto Rico Hawaii has actual power due to being a state and thus they'll more or less have no choice.

That, or Trump decides that because it's the state that produced Obama, he can treat it the same way he's treated everything else he's decided is connected to Obama.

Given how petty Trump is, I can see him not wanting to help Hawai'i just because Obama came from there (Birther myths not withstanding).

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#252807: Aug 22nd 2018 at 4:25:24 PM

[up]and he'd do that while managing not to acknowledge that Hawaii can't have produced a secret Kenyan.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#252808: Aug 22nd 2018 at 4:36:08 PM

[up][up]In which case it would result in even more unpopularity and electoral consequences, as the second part of my post said.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
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#252809: Aug 22nd 2018 at 4:40:18 PM

it should be noted that Hawaii is such a blue state, I don't think they even have a republican presence there. they are one of the safest blue states out there, election wise.

I doubt the current administration will give a shit if they get hit.

Edited by Jetyl on Aug 22nd 2018 at 4:42:40 AM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#252810: Aug 22nd 2018 at 4:43:55 PM

I can assure you Mitch Mc Connell has murdered a lot of poor Appalachian white women and their babies. In fact he's quite annoyed that they don't seem to be dying off in the numbers he'd hoped because of church support and charity.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 22nd 2018 at 4:44:54 AM

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#252811: Aug 22nd 2018 at 4:46:51 PM

[up]x2 Pretty much; every Federal Representative of Hawaii (Representatives, Senators, and Governor) is Democrat, their State Senate only has Democrats, and their State House has 5 Republicans out of 51 (they used to have 6 Republicans, but they kicked out their former Minority Leader for being Anti-Trump last year).

Hawaii is also the only State with an Asian Majority, and the State with the lowest percentage of White People.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#252812: Aug 22nd 2018 at 5:12:41 PM

Let's hope that the storm won't too much damage and that they won't get hit with anything major until Trump is out of office. Otherwise they will be f...

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#252813: Aug 22nd 2018 at 5:43:48 PM

••• it should be noted that Hawaii is such a blue state, I don't think they even have a republican presence there. they are one of the safest blue states out there, election wise.

I doubt the current administration will give a shit if they get hit.

I am not talking about electoral consequences within Hawaii, but rather as a result of the general public seeing the Republicans so publicly botching/ignoring destruction and suffering within a US state.

And before anyone says anything, no Puerto Rico is not a state and their suffering is for all intents and purposes invisible.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#252814: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:00:53 PM

Puerto Rico is absolutely part of the US, though.

And Republicans did this dance before.

It was called Hurricane Katrina.

Because New Orlenas was full of brown people and thus not worth the Republicans dime.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#252815: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:02:36 PM

[up]I'm talking about practical consequences.

Of course Puerto Rico is part of the US and should receive the appropriate attention as a result of that, but it's not a state and thus doesn't have power to actually make a case for themselves or push the government to actually do something.

Defacto colonies don't tend to do well with an indifferent suzerain state.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#252816: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:03:15 PM

I'm just noting the Republicans did ignore this with Katrina.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#252817: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:05:10 PM

Ah, touche.

My point was more that there will be consequences if they ignore it, they may very well pull another Katrina.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:04:41 AM

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#252818: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:17:26 PM

...Not to suggest that racism isn't a factor, but is there evidence that republicans would care about any natural disaster? They're kind of ideologically opposed to helping the common man at all

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Oh, bother.
#252819: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:20:57 PM

They'd only care if it's their constituencies threatened. Which is why you get Republicans who voted against sending aid to one state insisting that their state get aid.

Disgusted, but not surprised
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#252820: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:21:15 PM

Well, to be more specific, they're ideologically opposed to helping anyone who isn't their direct constituent.

If something happens in a Republicans state they'll lobby for money for it, unless it happens to hit minority and/or Democratic leaning areas; those people should just stop waiting for a government handout.

Edit: [nja]'d.

Edited by LSBK on Aug 22nd 2018 at 9:23:27 AM

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#252821: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:21:59 PM

Harris County, Texas Republican Party is under fire for challenging the voter registrations of people in heavily minority areas by calling into question their home or post office addresses, which suspends them from the voter rolls and could cost them their voting privileges if they don't provide proof of residence; in an update, the HCRP chair said it was "fake news" and blamed the issues on Harris County Voter Registrar (a registered Democrat).

Pence is in Houston to commemorate the one year anniversary of Hurricane Harvey.

He has really bad timing based on what I read over on the Houston subreddit, coming in and shutting down Interstate 45 right before rush hour. At least Trump's entourage scheduled a better time to come in and shut down roads when he came in after the Santa Fe shooting.

Edited by tclittle on Aug 22nd 2018 at 9:23:57 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#252822: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:23:26 PM

At this point I pretty much tune out anyone who uses "fake news" unironically. It's a pretty reliable sign that they are full of shit.

Edited by M84 on Aug 22nd 2018 at 10:25:59 PM

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#252823: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:31:38 PM

That's kind of a problem, since Russian fake news and propaganda was a sizable part of how Trump won. He just stole a valid phrase and co-opted it to attack normal and reliable news media.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#252824: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:33:43 PM

White House Twitter posts a video called "Permenatley Seperated," specifically pointing out an illegal immigrant killed Molly Tibbetts, a college student who's body was recently found.

No words.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#252825: Aug 22nd 2018 at 7:35:48 PM

[up][up]For me it was just pattern recognition. Most of the time someone used "fake news" unironically, they were full of crap.

It's like how nowadays when I see someone complain about "SJ Ws" unironically, I ignore them.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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