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thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#251851: Aug 12th 2018 at 11:13:14 AM

Sounds like they're chickening out to me.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#251852: Aug 12th 2018 at 11:23:33 AM

Apparently Jason Kessler is on his way on a private Metro train to himself and some interviewers

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#251853: Aug 12th 2018 at 12:40:20 PM

They're here. I can't see them but they're somewhere on the white house grounds.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#251854: Aug 12th 2018 at 12:44:36 PM

If Trump were in town (he's on a not!vacation), I'd almost expect him to appear before the crowd, and smile when they cheered or heiled him...

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#251855: Aug 12th 2018 at 1:12:50 PM

Though if this turns violent while he's on vacation, then we'd have a fiddling while Rome burns deal.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#251856: Aug 12th 2018 at 1:23:38 PM

CNN is reporting that there are, at most, 400 far-right marchers. The counter-protestors are said to number in the thousands. No reports of violence so far.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/12/us/unite-the-right-charlottesville-anniversary/index.html

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#251857: Aug 12th 2018 at 1:40:18 PM

[up][up][up]Nah he wouldn't do that, he's all about false equivalences and talking about "both sides". Which allows him to nod to them without actually supporting them outright, he's not going to go so far as to actually support them.

[up]I love when the alt-right marches, it's a lovely show of strength for the opponents of bigotry.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 12th 2018 at 4:42:28 AM

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Oh, bother.
#251858: Aug 12th 2018 at 2:26:03 PM

I would prefer if the alt-right did not march at all. I would also prefer if we did not have a President who makes them feel emboldened enough to march.

But yeah, the counter protesters are encouraging.

Edited by M84 on Aug 12th 2018 at 5:28:28 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#251859: Aug 12th 2018 at 2:32:25 PM

overwhelmingly outnumbering counter protesters.

CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#251860: Aug 12th 2018 at 2:39:29 PM

Apparently the Alt-Right are trying to use the metro to get to some park for the march, but don't have any metro cards. This is becoming more and more humiliating for them by the second.

Edited by CookingCat on Aug 12th 2018 at 2:42:08 AM

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#251861: Aug 12th 2018 at 2:39:34 PM

I heard there were over 10000 of us out there.

But anyway, it's over now. The Nazis bailed some time ago. The battle is ours.

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CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#251862: Aug 12th 2018 at 2:43:02 PM

So this turned out to be a huge waste of time and humiliating for the Nazis, since they had trouble with the metro and less than 500 of them showed up while thousands of counter-protestors heavily outnumbered them.

Edited by CookingCat on Aug 12th 2018 at 2:45:10 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#251863: Aug 12th 2018 at 2:43:35 PM

I always love it when the alt-rights favourite narrative - that they are speaking for the majority and everyone else is just too afraid to speak up - is visible shown to be false.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#251864: Aug 12th 2018 at 2:46:43 PM

The Neo-Nazis are having a serious issue with the more baseline Trumpists. Specifically, the Neo-Nazis are irritated the latter don't want to look like Nazis. Not because they're disagreeing they're white supremecists who hate blacks and Mexicans but because it turns out a lot of people hate Nazis.

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/10/17670996/alt-right-unite-the-right-nazis-charlottesville

My head fucking hurts after reading this article. It's like they are the lamest sons of bitches on the planet as well as being evil.

Mind you, the implications of, "stay under the radar" are creepy. Like Hydra and the Sith (which real people have used as examples).

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 12th 2018 at 2:46:59 AM

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CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#251865: Aug 12th 2018 at 2:53:40 PM

And this will be forgotten by next week as there was no violence and barely any Alt-Right showed up.

Edited by CookingCat on Aug 12th 2018 at 2:55:22 AM

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#251866: Aug 12th 2018 at 3:06:57 PM

"We don't want the perception of being asshole losers who march across the planet being mocked by everyone"

My response: Then don't be a worthless, soul-shriveled Nazi douchebag.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#251867: Aug 12th 2018 at 3:18:11 PM

To the alt-right, the Neo-Nazis look like antiquated losers clinging to a failed brand.

To the Neo-Nazis, the alt-right look like a bunch of posers too chickenshit to admit what they are.

To any decent human being, both are just...the worst.

Edited by M84 on Aug 12th 2018 at 6:18:11 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ryno_v Since: Dec, 2017
#251868: Aug 12th 2018 at 3:18:42 PM

[up][up][up][up]The divide the article talks about reminds me of that video with the alt-right meme guy getting kick of a right wing protest and asking them what about the memes while getting yell at by them.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#251869: Aug 12th 2018 at 3:22:13 PM

I would prefer if the alt-right did not march at all. I would also prefer if we did not have a President who makes them feel emboldened enough to march.

But yeah, the counter protesters are encouraging.

This is fair, yeah I agree that the best scenario would be one where they don't feel brave enough to march at-all. Still marches where they're routinely showed up by far larger numbers of counter-protesters is the next best thing in my book.

I heard there were over 10000 of us out there.

But anyway, it's over now. The Nazis bailed some time ago. The battle is ours.

At the risk of sounding trite it's great that you're out there fighting the good fight and opposing the alt-right, well done! grin

The Neo-Nazis are having a serious issue with the more baseline Trumpists. Specifically, the Neo-Nazis are irritated the latter don't want to look like Nazis. Not because they're disagreeing they're white supremecists who hate blacks and Mexicans but because it turns out a lot of people hate Nazis.

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/10/17670996/alt-right-unite-the-right-nazis-charlottesville

My head fucking hurts after reading this article. It's like they are the lamest sons of bitches on the planet as well as being evil.

Mind you, the implications of, "stay under the radar" are creepy. Like Hydra and the Sith (which real people have used as examples).

Yeah that's the thing about the alt-right, they're in this weird Twilight zone of being legitimately dangerous while also being ridiculous and moronic. It's dangerously easy to underestimate them and view them as non-threatening nobodies.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 12th 2018 at 6:24:12 AM

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Oh, bother.
#251870: Aug 12th 2018 at 3:25:19 PM

The alt-right are losers. But that doesn't make them not dangerous. If anything, that might make them more dangerous.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#251871: Aug 12th 2018 at 3:39:14 PM

My father the multimillionaire (before losing most of it due to the financial collapse) kept some odd company—one of them being a genuine hardcore one-percenter crook.

He said that when you were dealing with a new group of crooks, it was always good to separate the two into the actual tough guys and the poseurs. Because the actual tough guys won't need to prove themselves while the poseurs will want to pick a fight (whether they'd win or not) and go further than anyone to try to prove themselves.

Even if it was stupid and could attract heat.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 12th 2018 at 3:42:23 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#251872: Aug 12th 2018 at 3:45:59 PM

Like Hydra and the Sith (which real people have used as examples).

The Sith have an excuse for being outnumbered, though, because of the Rule of Two.

That said, the cowardice of the alt-right makes them more dangerous, not less. They can engage in tactics like doxxing, swatting and harassment from a position of anonymity, and they're usually Tor-savvy enough to hide on the Internet (not a difficult thing to do).

They come from a generation who know how to take advantage of their faces not being punchable through the Internet.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#251873: Aug 12th 2018 at 3:49:21 PM

And of course, every now and then, they go further. Just ask Heather Heyer's mother Susan Bro.

The alt-right don't deserve an iota of respect. But they do warrant caution.

Edited by M84 on Aug 12th 2018 at 6:50:27 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#251874: Aug 12th 2018 at 4:03:31 PM

So yeah, the counter-protest went off without a hitch and we dwarfed the alt-right in size as everybody knows. The one thing I was disappointed with was a couple of the speakers were UB-ish borderline bothsidesists ("a snake with two heads", one speaker said, while another chided the Democrats who control no branches of government at the moment for not doing anything and claiming they care about us) and presumably more were among them. So that was kind of a let-down. Rest of the event was great though.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Aug 12th 2018 at 7:03:07 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#251875: Aug 12th 2018 at 4:07:50 PM

I can't stand people who rail on and on about how the Democratic Party is ineffectual and then complain about how they lose elections. Maybe the Democratic Party would enjoy more electoral success if idiots weren't making public speeches about how "useless" they are.

Edited by M84 on Aug 12th 2018 at 7:10:14 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised

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