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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#251826: Aug 11th 2018 at 7:50:52 PM

You need 3/4ths of the states to ratify a convention's results. That is not going to happen.

Also, you're just counting Republican-held legislatures towards the 2/3? Because you should subtract one - it'll be a cold day in Hell before Alaska's current state legislature (or our governor, who has veto power over any legislative initiative) backs the national Republican Party on something like this. Any Republican legislature that might be vetoed likewise needs to be counted out.

Edited by Ramidel on Aug 11th 2018 at 6:52:49 AM

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#251827: Aug 11th 2018 at 10:52:49 PM

All I'll say is that if the Republicans ever manage a constitutional convention (and that's a very big if), there will be a Civil War in the aftermath. Mark my words.

Not for very long, there won't be. Many actual nations do not have the strength to push back against the most powerful military force on the face of the planet were it to come to that. A bunch of pissed off civilians with shotguns aren't going to put a dent in the U.S. Armed Forces.

This doesn't stop being true if the would-be insurrectionists are blue instead of red.

Americans have a cultural love of armed insurrection as a fall-back plan, but that is a safety net made of concrete. Always has been.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 11th 2018 at 11:56:10 AM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#251828: Aug 11th 2018 at 11:24:59 PM

In the event of a US civil war, the likelihood of it would probably not be guns in the streets but someone blowing up buildings and the people in them. It also might be when and if the US military eventually has to arrest someone else in the government on the orders of someone else.

No, militias won't be shooting it out with US troops but they might be sniping public officials.

And US government forces might get conflicting orders.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 11th 2018 at 11:26:11 AM

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#251829: Aug 12th 2018 at 12:12:15 AM

This has got to be a bot account, right?

Edited by BearyScary on Aug 12th 2018 at 11:12:01 AM

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#251830: Aug 12th 2018 at 12:44:05 AM

The numbers are certainly suspicious, but I don't have enough experience with Twitter bots to have a say on whether it's real or not. It is a little odd that literally all the Tweets are related to politics.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#251831: Aug 12th 2018 at 1:02:55 AM

Botcheck says it's not.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#251832: Aug 12th 2018 at 5:30:42 AM

[up] I put my account through one of those things, and it said I was one. I find them to be unreliable at best.

It certainly looks like a bot account to me.

Edited by megaeliz on Aug 12th 2018 at 1:50:54 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#251833: Aug 12th 2018 at 6:17:10 AM

Well, clearly you're a bot. Just because you didn't know you were a robot doesn't mean you aren't one, certainly a computer program would know a robot when it sees it. What's it like learning you're mechanical?

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#251834: Aug 12th 2018 at 6:23:29 AM

Not for very long, there won't be. Many actual nations do not have the strength to push back against the most powerful military force on the face of the planet were it to come to that. A bunch of pissed off civilians with shotguns aren't going to put a dent in the U.S. Armed Forces.

This doesn't stop being true if the would-be insurrectionists are blue instead of red.

Americans have a cultural love of armed insurrection as a fall-back plan, but that is a safety net made of concrete. Always has been.

I will point out that while you're completely right about the general point regarding the odds of beating a unified Federal government it wouldn't really be a civil war if the Federal government is unified, it would only really count if there were mass defections a la Syria.

But yes I don't think a Civil War would be the result, just our nation sliding into kleptocracy and authoritarianism.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#251835: Aug 12th 2018 at 6:31:41 AM

[up][up] The third season of Westworld looks like shit already.

Edited by fruitpork on Aug 12th 2018 at 9:31:29 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#251836: Aug 12th 2018 at 6:37:27 AM

Maybe the botcheck isn't identifying bots as I'm robots, but instead identifying bots as in the slimes from Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

Which, given [up][up][up][up], raises a few questions about megaeliz...

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 12th 2018 at 7:41:40 AM

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#251837: Aug 12th 2018 at 7:02:11 AM

More than 850 tweets in less than two months, all of which is political and which looks agenda-driven in a single political direction?

A lot of the tweets look fresh rather than retweets. It might be a troll farm account rather than a bot.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#251838: Aug 12th 2018 at 9:22:38 AM

I'm currently at the location where the counterprotests are to take place. Procedures start at 1.

i'm tired, my friend
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#251839: Aug 12th 2018 at 9:34:01 AM

Stay safe.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#251840: Aug 12th 2018 at 9:52:25 AM

Please tell me that the counter protesters outnumber the alt-right.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#251841: Aug 12th 2018 at 9:58:58 AM

Remember, use whole milk to wash away tear gas. Never use water.

Oh really when?
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#251842: Aug 12th 2018 at 10:03:21 AM

Everything I've seen indicates the counter protestors will far outnumber the Nazis.

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#251843: Aug 12th 2018 at 10:31:54 AM

Last I heard the maximum expectation was 400 White Supremacists, perhaps 1500 counter protesters. We’ll know for sure soon though.

Stay safe and good luck, Physical Stamina.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#251844: Aug 12th 2018 at 10:34:28 AM

> Remember, use whole milk to wash away tear gas. Never use water.

Maybe bring swimming goggles so if they do deploy tear gas your eyes don't get stung?

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#251845: Aug 12th 2018 at 10:46:12 AM

[up] Tear gasses like OC and CT gas need to be washed off the skin, or else their effects continue.

Goggles and a damp rag will protect you from most of the effects, just wash yourself thoroughly afterwards. Hot water and steam will just spread the gas, so take a cold shower. When you’re leaving the area that’s been gassed check for anyone lying on the ground, as it can be lethal to people with asthma or any other breathing difficulties. Look out for the canisters as well, they’re launched from grenade launchers and the impact is enough to kill, and they can give you nasty burns if you touch them after they’ve been deployed.

Stay safe out there.

They should have sent a poet.
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#251846: Aug 12th 2018 at 10:48:01 AM

@some of the above:

The Nazis ain't even here yet

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#251847: Aug 12th 2018 at 10:52:38 AM

Also,watch out for water cannons in the event they use those,those things are nasty

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#251848: Aug 12th 2018 at 11:08:42 AM

Any chance they won't even show if they're outnumbered 3-to-1? They've proven similarly cowardly in the past.

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#251849: Aug 12th 2018 at 11:09:06 AM

@Physical Stamina, flip off a Nazi for me.

...Ya know, from like a safe distance.

Edited by thatindiantroper on Aug 12th 2018 at 11:38:56 PM

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#251850: Aug 12th 2018 at 11:11:40 AM

[up][up]I dunno, but I'm hearing later and later arrival dates for them. First 1, then 2, then 3:30, and finally 5:30

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