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Imca (Veteran)
#251101: Aug 4th 2018 at 2:13:51 PM

Its called having a lot of narcissists.

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#251102: Aug 4th 2018 at 2:15:58 PM

[up][up]Not an issue when it seems there a a lot of Sauron wannabes.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#251103: Aug 4th 2018 at 2:19:27 PM

[up]Somehow I don't think even Sauron would want to hire her.tongue

SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#251104: Aug 4th 2018 at 2:27:49 PM

[up] Sauron would certainly make a better candidate than Trump.tongue

Also, let's face it, Sanders will probably just get a position at Faux News or somewhere like that if she gets the boot.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#251105: Aug 4th 2018 at 2:31:09 PM

"Because why vote for the lesser evil?"

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Imca (Veteran)
#251107: Aug 4th 2018 at 2:37:43 PM

Giant Meteor 2020

"Just End It"

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#251108: Aug 4th 2018 at 2:43:12 PM

What's Stephen Miller gonna do? He's possibly the most loathsome member of the whole administration (sans maybe Trump himself).

tsstevens Reading tropes such as You Know What You Did from Reading tropes such as Righting Great Wrongs Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
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#251109: Aug 4th 2018 at 2:46:56 PM

Several times I have said, in complete seriousness, that Trump supporters are a cult. It's fanaticism, it's Jihad. Yesterday there was the political video of babies being indoctrinated to become Trump supporters and now there is this.

What's this? This, there's no easy way to say this, farmers have said they are willing to die to allow Trump's policies that are hurting them. The video also mentions how voters will attack anyone who does not toe the line, seeing themselves as Trump's secret police who have to enforce his will on the world, and the Jimmy Kimmel and other videos where nothing he could say or do would make them not vote for him.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is a cult. Trump has somehow whipped his supporters into a North Korea style level of blind devotion and I dare say him and his voters are holding America hostage. If anything is done that threatens his presidency then it very well could spiral into civil war with this level of fundamentalism.

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#251110: Aug 4th 2018 at 3:03:19 PM

Really do wonder how much of this is blind devotion vs self interest. And when I say self interest, that includes "watching other people get screwed as long as they are screwed more than I am". Nobody can be this blind.

Don't catch you slippin' now.
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#251111: Aug 4th 2018 at 3:18:17 PM

"No one can be this blind" And thinking like that is the reason why Trump got elected in the first place. As for the people who are supposedly willing to die for Trump's cause? Let them as long as no one else gets hurt.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
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Let memes die. Kill them, if you have to.
#251112: Aug 4th 2018 at 3:21:46 PM

[up] I was referring to the devotion after the election. I'm not throwing them a bone or anything.

Don't catch you slippin' now.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#251113: Aug 4th 2018 at 3:43:02 PM

It angers me on so many levels that I am....just going to be relieved when time catches up with that man.

You worshiped a false idol and it is damning you.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#251114: Aug 4th 2018 at 3:43:09 PM

While I don't doubt trump supporters would want to start a civil war if he lost reelection would they really have the means too?

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#251115: Aug 4th 2018 at 3:53:53 PM

I highly doubt it. At most, there can be some small scale riots, but a full blown civil war would mean everyone wanting to start one would have to be armed.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
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#251116: Aug 4th 2018 at 3:55:28 PM

Doesn't an civil war takes, you know, guns, ammo coordination, and people that can stand up to the United States Military?

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Reading tropes such as You Know What You Did
#251117: Aug 4th 2018 at 3:56:26 PM

It would go a long way to explaining why they want anyone to have any type of gun they want, as many guns as they want, and use the defense of arming themselves against a corrupt government for guns. Except in this case many Trump supporters would see anyone not Trump as corrupt and even the rule of law or common decency, or the Constitution (against freedom of speech and the press, against a two term limit or free elections) does not apply. I think it is possible that Billy Bob and Rube and Gomer and Cleatus and Innis will form a pro Trump militia and think their precious AR-15s will stand against SEAL Team Six and A-10 attack drones and Raptor fighters. It will be a Curb-Stomp Battle but I genuinely believe some will try, just not well.

Currently reading up My Rule Fu Is Stronger than Yours
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#251118: Aug 4th 2018 at 3:57:58 PM

It's an ugly image that Americans worship a man who embodies so much vileness.

White supremacy dies hard.

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God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
#251119: Aug 4th 2018 at 4:01:09 PM

Hey, I hate Trump, too. But the only thing we can do is hope that my country grows an new brain and vote for someone more reasonable than him.

Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to break
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#251120: Aug 4th 2018 at 4:02:32 PM

While I don't doubt trump supporters would want to start a civil war if he lost reelection would they really have the means too?

No. Other then a few pockets of Die-Hard Republicans (and Neo-Nazis), Trump couldn't even get a Civil War against Democrats off the ground. Especially since many of the Traditional Allies of the Republicans are leaving their side (The Koch Network and the Southern Baptists) or dying off (the NRA).

Certain areas would have riots (especially in the South and Non-Coastal West), and for years we'd probably have to deal with White Supremecist, Reactionary Guerrillas for a while, but no State or City would actively try to secede from the Union.

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#251121: Aug 4th 2018 at 4:17:13 PM

I certainly count on Trump supporters to try a civil war, no matter how ill-equipped they are. These people are beyond reason, beyond sense. All they see is an enemy to eliminate, and they will resort to any means to do it.

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#251122: Aug 4th 2018 at 4:26:02 PM

@21: I doubt if people are actually that stupid. Sure, the Civil War happened. But that came from regional unity from the military, not from an scattered minority with guns and vests. Plus, there's the tiny issues called air superiority and armored vehicles, so they would be fucked over unless most of the military plays along.

Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to break
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#251123: Aug 4th 2018 at 4:35:57 PM

I’d be more worried about some kind of reactionary insurgency than a full-blown civil war. Insurgents are notoriously hard to get rid of, even with a powerful military.

I doubt it’ll get to that point though. At most there will be protests in red states.

([up]x7 Unmanned A-10s would be so awesome.)

Edited by archonspeaks on Aug 4th 2018 at 4:37:19 AM

They should have sent a poet.
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#251124: Aug 4th 2018 at 4:42:43 PM

I doubt if people are actually that stupid.

People are definitely that stupid.

i'm tired, my friend
RabidTanker God-Mayor of Sim-Kind Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
#251125: Aug 4th 2018 at 4:47:04 PM

Is it wrong to advocate "Survival of the Smartest"?

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