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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Reading tropes such as You Know What You Did
Several times I have said, in complete seriousness, that Trump supporters are a cult. It's fanaticism, it's Jihad. Yesterday there was the political video of babies being indoctrinated to become Trump supporters and now there is this.
What's this? This, there's no easy way to say this, farmers have said they are willing to die to allow Trump's policies that are hurting them. The video also mentions how voters will attack anyone who does not toe the line, seeing themselves as Trump's secret police who have to enforce his will on the world, and the Jimmy Kimmel and other videos where nothing he could say or do would make them not vote for him.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is a cult. Trump has somehow whipped his supporters into a North Korea style level of blind devotion and I dare say him and his voters are holding America hostage. If anything is done that threatens his presidency then it very well could spiral into civil war with this level of fundamentalism.
Currently reading up My Rule Fu Is Stronger than Yours
Reading tropes such as You Know What You Did
It would go a long way to explaining why they want anyone to have any type of gun they want, as many guns as they want, and use the defense of arming themselves against a corrupt government for guns. Except in this case many Trump supporters would see anyone not Trump as corrupt and even the rule of law or common decency, or the Constitution (against freedom of speech and the press, against a two term limit or free elections) does not apply. I think it is possible that Billy Bob and Rube and Gomer and Cleatus and Innis will form a pro Trump militia and think their precious AR-15s will stand against SEAL Team Six and A-10 attack drones and Raptor fighters. It will be a Curb-Stomp Battle but I genuinely believe some will try, just not well.
Currently reading up My Rule Fu Is Stronger than YoursNo. Other then a few pockets of Die-Hard Republicans (and Neo-Nazis), Trump couldn't even get a Civil War against Democrats off the ground. Especially since many of the Traditional Allies of the Republicans are leaving their side (The Koch Network and the Southern Baptists) or dying off (the NRA).
Certain areas would have riots (especially in the South and Non-Coastal West), and for years we'd probably have to deal with White Supremecist, Reactionary Guerrillas for a while, but no State or City would actively try to secede from the Union.
@21: I doubt if people are actually that stupid. Sure, the Civil War happened. But that came from regional unity from the military, not from an scattered minority with guns and vests. Plus, there's the tiny issues called air superiority and armored vehicles, so they would be fucked over unless most of the military plays along.
Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to breakI’d be more worried about some kind of reactionary insurgency than a full-blown civil war. Insurgents are notoriously hard to get rid of, even with a powerful military.
I doubt it’ll get to that point though. At most there will be protests in red states.
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x7 Unmanned A-10s would be so awesome.)
Edited by archonspeaks on Aug 4th 2018 at 4:37:19 AM
They should have sent a poet.

Its called having a lot of narcissists.