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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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Full agreement on that one, but the distinction between the two remains, regardless of approval.
Any chance we could shift the conversation back to Trump denying knowledge of the meeting?
Edited by ironballs16 on Jul 27th 2018 at 1:25:05 AM
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"I mean what's "diddling" minors in one state is legal in another (or other countries) Age of consent ranges from 16-18 (which I'm pretty sure if fairly common) but I don't think many places have it at, say, nine.
I'd say the distinction matters, at least in some cases.
Edited by LSBK on Jul 27th 2018 at 4:07:06 AM
Which is actually the age of consent in Germany. It would still be a problem because he still acted like a sexual predator, and that is punished worse when when the victim is still underage, but under German law a 14 year old can consent to sex regardless of the age of the partner BUT if the younger partner complains about the older partner having coerced him or her into sex, then it becomes immediately sexual abuse.
Basically the human body is usually ready to become sexually active around the age of 14, and the German law is more concerned with the question if someone young is coerced into sex than with the ages of the participants once the 14 year mark is passed.
Not that any of this makes Roy Moore any less of a creep. But then, Roy Moore wasn't reelected and I don't think that he ever worked for Disney. But as a purely academic question, yes, there is a huge difference between the notion of sex with someone 14 year old (or older) or someone who is considered a child. The former is considered okay in a number of cultures, the latter it usually frowned upon across the cultural lines, despite stories about eight year olds already getting pregnant.
Edited by Swanpride on Jul 27th 2018 at 2:08:07 AM
@Swanpride: Gettin' a bit carried away there, maybe?
You know, is there some state level news that does not simply relate to Trump?
Edited by SeptimusHeap on Jul 27th 2018 at 11:33:42 AM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanProbably wouldn't need a whole hand to count them, for example.
Since the question of state level news made me think though:
Ted Cruz proposes 5 debates with Beto O’Rourke in U.S. Senate race
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/07/25/ted-cruz-proposes-five-debates-beto-orourke-texas/
An Op-Ed I skimmed
noted this is an unusual decision for a running incumbent, but going on debates when the incumbent ignored them is how he won his senatorial seat in the first place if I understood correctly.
Edited by sgamer82 on Jul 27th 2018 at 4:14:40 AM
You know why we never give Trump credit for the economy like he and his supporters want? Because he never stops gloating about it. There's no bigger deterrent to praising someone than if they praise themselves.
(for those that don't know, I'm referring to the 4.1 GDP that's been making the rounds in the news today and which has me concerned about the midterms despite the gains we've made)
Edited by speedyboris on Jul 27th 2018 at 5:43:37 AM
Not to mention that the fact things look so good for the Democrats even while the economy is doing fine is encouraging in of itself, imagine how badly things could go for the Republicans if Trump wrecks the economy by starting a trade war?
I think things look quite encouraging from where I'm standing.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangJust in case you need a reminder that tariffs suck major donkey ass, canned Coco-Cola (and possibly similar brands) will likely have their prices raised due to the tariffs on aluminmum.
Trump has done NOTHING to improve the economy. At the start he was still riding on the wave of what Obama did and the general economic boom worldwide. They basically just went and suddenly claimed that everything they portrayed as negative beforehand is not positive. And since Trump has actually starting to make decisions, every single one of them seem to be set on making the economy tank.
Also, the Obama boom (and the British recovery too for that matter) wasn't particularly well-founded in the first place and Trump has made the split between the FIRE sector and the real economy even worse. Tax cuts fuel speculation on top of the existing asset bubble and then tariffs penalize any business trying to actually make real stuff. I had a look at the breakdown of that 2.4% wage growth they were talking about a few months ago and once again it's a mean result presenting an idealized picture of a heavily skewed distribution. The bottom 80% still hasn't had a raise, the top 20 and especially the top 2% got big ones.
Anyone pissed off about the last forty years enough to go "as far as I can see all the politicians are lying bastards anyway, I'll go with the orange bullshit artist because fuck all of you elites" has no reason to change their tune at all.
Edited by DeathorCake on Jul 27th 2018 at 11:39:40 AM
Maybe, but even so if the economy tanks it probably will decrease the chances of those hardcore Trumpists vote. The economy being fragged with your guy in power does not exactly provide the best motivator to vote, especially when we're talking about midterms which tend to be low priority for people.
Quite, but <shrugs> the President gets the credit and the blame for whatever economic conditions there are.
Still as you say he's doing his best to wreck it and if he succeeds then one silver lining should be the titanic Blue Wave that would inevitably occur.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jul 27th 2018 at 8:07:58 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

Because the distinction is important in biology and works of fiction often draw a difference. I am reminded of some Law and Order: Special Victims Unit eps.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman