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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#250226: Jul 25th 2018 at 12:17:03 PM

And just like that, this show's existence justifies itself. I was kinda on the fence about it because I wasn't sure how much it would actually accomplish, but this is a positive tangible consequence. Even if nothing else ever comes of it, this victory right here makes it worthwhile by itself.

Now I'm excited to see if anything else will come of it!

Exactly my thoughts [tup]

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jul 25th 2018 at 3:17:03 PM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Snipertoaster from Mind Your Business (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#250227: Jul 25th 2018 at 12:21:00 PM

A little late to comment on this, but apparently S.B. Cohen has been doing this sort of thing for years now (albeit the examples listed target our Tories more than the GOP, but even so).

I love how furious the GOP are that they were totally played, and they're attacking the evil monster S.B. Cohen, but if he managed to get you to happily chase someone around with your bare arse, repeatedly scream nagger and take creepshots on someone wearing a burkha, then I think that miiiiight say a bit more about you than S.B. Cohen.

[down]Made me think to be a bit more specific.

Edited by Snipertoaster on Jul 25th 2018 at 8:28:58 PM

We can choose to be better.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#250228: Jul 25th 2018 at 12:24:32 PM

The fact that two Cohen's are currently prominent is super annoying.

Come on reality be more imaginative!

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jul 25th 2018 at 3:24:03 PM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#250229: Jul 25th 2018 at 1:08:03 PM

I know righht,for some reason there's two guys named Doug Jones,one is actor the other is a politician

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#250230: Jul 25th 2018 at 1:15:48 PM

One-Steve Limit has never applied to reality. I had a graduating class of roughly 100 students, and 7 of them were named Mike.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#250232: Jul 25th 2018 at 1:37:11 PM

[up][up]Oh I'm well aware, but I reserve the right to be annoyed about it! <shakes fist at reality> tongue

[up]Quite, it's a very convenient trope.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#250233: Jul 25th 2018 at 1:38:08 PM

BREAKING NEWS: The lawsuit against Trump violating the Emoluments Clause has been given the go ahead from a Judge in Maryland. Both sides now have 21 days to produce their next moves.

This is good, in that we can get Trump's Tax Returns this way, and we can see just how much Russia has on Trump (in terms of Rubles).

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#250234: Jul 25th 2018 at 2:15:41 PM

Oh, and as a mild update - despite the White House's response regarding the Trump/Putin transcription, the thing still hasn't been updated.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#250235: Jul 25th 2018 at 2:17:44 PM

In my school of 80 kids we had 3 Rubys, 2 Maxs and just before I started 3 Alexs, finding ways to make it clear which person you meant with a particular name was always fun.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick from Redneck country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Call me Stick
#250236: Jul 25th 2018 at 2:23:50 PM

3 Rubys? Hide your cookies.

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#250237: Jul 25th 2018 at 2:27:27 PM

America being both steeped in Christian discourse (which isn't foundational — most Founders were Deist or had a healthy skepticism of theology) and in rapacious greed (which is foundational, since the Founders were country aristocrats and mostly slaveowners) isn't an internal disconnect.

Yes and no, especially regarding the slavery issue that led to the Southern Baptists being created because the Northern Baptists loathed them.

Christianity has always proved willing to sell out for the purpose of political expediency, going back to the Roman era. Saying "this isn't how a true Christian acts" is actually sort of useless. Be able to adapt and worm one's way into the court, so to speak, has been in the Christian playbook since the 4th Century.

In the words of Shepard Book, a govenrment is a body of people. Christianity does not have an internal driving force save God itself if you believe and the history there is routinely disgust at the misuse of it. The conflicts among Christians over this sort of thing are pretty THE history of the sect since America's settling was done by people disgusted with the materialism of the existing (secular controlled) church.

Mind you, they were a bunch of religious fanatics but No True Scotsman is both ridciulous as well as a very real phenomenon in America. Things would get along a lot easier if not for the fact Christian conflict over corruption is a constant neverending struggle.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jul 25th 2018 at 2:27:12 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#250238: Jul 25th 2018 at 2:46:22 PM

Meanwhile...

     In the near future when Kamala Harris gets elected... 

...

Inter arma enim silent leges
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#250239: Jul 25th 2018 at 2:50:43 PM

Or Gillibrand.

But yes, that will almost certainly be sadly accurate.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#250240: Jul 25th 2018 at 3:00:01 PM

I do like the fact the Democrats are trying to move a bit right and Trump just angers the base left.

It's how I've felt a while.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#250241: Jul 25th 2018 at 3:01:57 PM

Excuse me? How exactly are the Democrats trying to move right?

Ever since 2016 the party has been moving left quite steadily.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#250242: Jul 25th 2018 at 3:07:37 PM

The party hasn’t, but certain elements within (like Sanders and his supporters) did call for a rightward shift on identity issues, they’ve been soundly told to bugger off with that suggestion by the vase.

Edited by Silasw on Jul 25th 2018 at 10:07:36 AM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#250243: Jul 25th 2018 at 3:09:18 PM

Yes.

I.e "Well Trump is a white dude, maybe we need one as our candidate."

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#250244: Jul 25th 2018 at 3:10:42 PM

[up]And who has said that? And how exactly do they represent the party?

[up][up]Very true. Thankfully their efforts have failed.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jul 25th 2018 at 6:11:03 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#250245: Jul 25th 2018 at 3:13:17 PM

I would really hope the Democrats don’t put forward a white guy simply out of an effort to appeal to racists.

They should have sent a poet.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#250246: Jul 25th 2018 at 3:13:27 PM

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/4/16/17242748/identity-politics-racial-justice-democratic-party-lilla-traub-trump

Here.

And the Democrats who wanted to do that were rebuked.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jul 25th 2018 at 3:13:14 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#250247: Jul 25th 2018 at 3:17:36 PM

So what you're saying is that some Democrats said something wrong and you extrapolated it to cover the entire party?

To be honest Charles I think you're beginning to show a clear pattern of bias regarding Democratic Party.

That is not a rightward shift by any reasonable standard, especially not when the party has been steadily heading left for more than two years. I understand if you dislike some if not many of the positions of the party establishment but this frankly is not a good look.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jul 25th 2018 at 6:17:28 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#250248: Jul 25th 2018 at 3:24:56 PM

Also, even if they do end up nominating Biden or someone like that, that doesn't automatically signal a rightward shift. The party's platform, especially on social issues, will either stay where it is, if not move leftwards modestly. Economically even establishment Democrats are starting to talk about moving forward with healthcare in some capacity, as well as job programs and so forth.

Now that I think about it, Biden/Harris (with the understanding that Harris is the heir apparent and that Biden may not run in 2024) could be very potent. Obama nostalgia, a clear progressive being set up for the top job, and a candidate who is popular in the states Trump needs to hold to have a chance....

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#250249: Jul 25th 2018 at 3:32:40 PM

Hmm... that could be effective. Still I wonder how well Biden meshes with the current consensus forming amongst the base, it's becoming more and more left-leaning and frankly I think in many ways Biden is a relic from a bygone political era that may not be the best fit for a Presidential candidate.

I'll adore the guy either way but I am very hesitant about the idea of him running.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#250250: Jul 25th 2018 at 3:34:09 PM

So what you're saying is that some Democrats said something wrong and you extrapolated it to cover the entire party?

I think you are vastly overestimating the care with which Charles chooses his words, his criticism is aimed at the elements within the Democratic Party (both of the Sanders variety and of the press variety) who claimed that Clinton was a step to far and that the Dems need a white man to save them. Don’t dig a deeper meaning into his statement when there isn’t one.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

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