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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#250001: Jul 23rd 2018 at 4:24:44 PM

Investigators have at least 12 Cohen recordings.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/cohen-trump-audio-recordings/index.html

No specifics yet, but if they consider it valid to the case, the content must be good.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#250002: Jul 23rd 2018 at 5:22:17 PM

I hope regularly referring to Sacha Baron Cohen and Michael Cohen back to back in the same thread doesn't get confusing.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Jul 23rd 2018 at 8:24:10 AM

Oh God! Natural light!
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#250003: Jul 23rd 2018 at 5:34:17 PM

300+ million people in the country and somehow we keep running into Cohen's and Sanders'.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#250004: Jul 23rd 2018 at 5:56:55 PM

Yeah, we made it to 10K+ pages. smile

Do not obey in advance.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#250005: Jul 23rd 2018 at 6:01:29 PM

[up]OVER 10000!!!

Edited by kkhohoho on Jul 23rd 2018 at 8:03:14 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#250006: Jul 23rd 2018 at 6:04:47 PM

Considering no news is good news when it comes to current-day American politics, I don't know how I feel about that.

Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#250007: Jul 23rd 2018 at 6:26:08 PM

[up] It's funny seeing how quiet the thread was in the Obama years where mostly nothing happened and the things posted here concerned crazy GOP shenanigans in red states, compared to the present where there's a new stupid headline to report everyday.

Life is unfair...
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#250008: Jul 23rd 2018 at 6:29:35 PM

There's a reason the daily news site I regularly link to is called "What The Fuck Just Happened Today?"

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#250009: Jul 23rd 2018 at 6:30:55 PM

Assuming Devos hasn't completely gutted USA education by the time this term is done, future history books will have a lot to say on these years.

I've said before that out of all of the members of Trump's Cabinet of Horrors, I might hate Devos the most.

Edited by M84 on Jul 23rd 2018 at 9:32:10 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#250010: Jul 23rd 2018 at 6:39:36 PM

[up] With this administration's turnover rates, you might get as lucky as me when I saw my most hated official, Pruitt, resign his office in disgrace.

Life is unfair...
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#250011: Jul 23rd 2018 at 6:43:07 PM

I'm still apprehensive about it since anyone Trump picked would likely be as bad if not worse. I'm not sure who would be worse than Devos, but I'm fairly certain Trump's pick would be the answer to that question.

Let's face it, as bad as Pruitt was (and he was bad) Andrew Wheeler isn't any better.

Edited by M84 on Jul 23rd 2018 at 9:44:01 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#250012: Jul 23rd 2018 at 6:46:08 PM

That's the thing, really. People who don't have the qualifications to their job well are inherently replaceable.

Edited by Gilphon on Jul 23rd 2018 at 9:46:48 AM

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#250013: Jul 23rd 2018 at 7:09:12 PM

Incidentally, the new Secretary of Veterans Affairs was confirmed.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#250014: Jul 23rd 2018 at 7:29:01 PM

I don't check this thread every day, but I kinda low key freak out when there a ton of new pages. It's the "What did he do this time?" concern

Do not obey in advance.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#250015: Jul 23rd 2018 at 7:32:04 PM

It's more "What did they do this time?" If it's not Trump, it's Paul, Mitch, Rand, the Cabinet of Horrors...

Disgusted, but not surprised
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#250017: Jul 23rd 2018 at 9:15:57 PM

Speaking of one for the history books, I can already imagine future students wondering how the fuck stuff like Trump happened, followed by an edgelord saying Trump did nothing wrong.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#250018: Jul 23rd 2018 at 9:34:28 PM

[up] Regarding that, I'm certain reddit and 4chan will eventually make the history books...if only to contextualize how Trump became president and other events.

Come to think of it. I can imagine a "History of the Internet" course being possible, a college level class dedicated to what happened on the internet and how it affected the real world.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Jul 23rd 2018 at 9:39:46 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#250019: Jul 23rd 2018 at 9:44:35 PM

SOC 420: Advanced Meme Studies.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#250020: Jul 23rd 2018 at 9:45:48 PM

I mean, its already happening, you can't just ignore the internet's impact on literally every aspect of society.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#250021: Jul 23rd 2018 at 10:16:05 PM

A big part of why things are messed up is because society spent too long thinking of the things said and done online as not "real". As if "online life" and "real life" were somehow separate.

Disgusted, but not surprised
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#250022: Jul 23rd 2018 at 10:37:13 PM

GOP Criticism Of Trump Is All Talk — But It Still Matters

An interesting article about how Congressional Republicans could be doing more to oppose Trump, even just verbally going against him sometimes can still have an effect. If nothing else it helps Trump from becoming normalized if even some Republicans are willing to pay lip service to a lot of what he says being over the line and/or false.

And another point that it's less "most Republicans vote in line with Trump" and more "Most Republicans vote Republican." Which is a condemnation of them and the party as a whole in a different way, but is still important.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#250023: Jul 24th 2018 at 12:20:43 AM

I hope regularly referring to Sacha Baron Cohen and Michael Cohen back to back in the same thread doesn't get confusing.
You mean they're not both the Cohen brothers?[lol]

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
LordYAM Since: Jan, 2015
#250024: Jul 24th 2018 at 12:56:45 AM

One person made the point that Sanders has pointed to actual problems (we have tried negotiating with Republicans only to get spat on because current republicans are a bunch of whiny children) but doesn’t propose good solutions.

Compromise is needed to a degree but I can’t help but think that Obama could have done more if he and the Dems said “fuck you we aren’t going to let you push us around.”

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!

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