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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#184551: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:54:39 PM

[up][up][up] You only get a biased perspective if you only go to pro-Clinton sites?

I'm pretty sure your perspective will be biased if you only visit pro-<insert person of your choice> sites, not just pro-Clinton sites.

And what is wrong with getting a foreigner's perspective?

edited 24th Apr '17 12:56:11 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#184552: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:57:14 PM

@M84 I know. I didn't imply otherwise. Context. He was talking about coming to this forum specifically to get his news. And OTC is specifically pro-Clinton.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#184553: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:57:34 PM

[up][up] You need to mingle with multiple political ideologies if you want to mitigate bias.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:57:40 PM by CaptainCapsase

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#184554: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:59:31 PM

[up] Only if you care enough to

[down]I think he was directing his comment to me

edited 24th Apr '17 1:02:40 PM by sgamer82

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#184555: Apr 24th 2017 at 1:00:54 PM

[up][up] I wasn't saying otherwise.

edited 24th Apr '17 1:03:11 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#184556: Apr 24th 2017 at 1:01:58 PM

And what is wrong with getting a foreigner's perspective?

Nothing.

But you're not living and breathing America like we have to.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#184557: Apr 24th 2017 at 1:02:31 PM

[up][up] And I don't think MadSkillz was trying to imply otherwise either.

[up] M84 is American.

edited 24th Apr '17 1:02:49 PM by CaptainCapsase

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#184558: Apr 24th 2017 at 1:03:51 PM

[up][up] I'm a fellow registered Californian, BTW. I think I've mentioned that before on this thread.

And note my choice of avatar.

edited 24th Apr '17 1:05:02 PM by M84

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#184559: Apr 24th 2017 at 1:04:13 PM

[up][up][up]Maybe not. But, we do kind of have to worry about where to duck if you start spontaneously combusting...

edited 24th Apr '17 1:04:37 PM by Euodiachloris

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#184560: Apr 24th 2017 at 1:07:35 PM

That first "only" reveals a bit of bias on Madskillz's part. As if someone who only visits pro-Sanders sites wouldn't be biased.

Uh, that's not what I'm saying though. Go re-read my response.

I'm not saying "it's" only when you read pro-Clinton stuff that you gain a biased perspective.

I'm saying if you only read pro-Clinton sites that you'll get a biased perspective. Same applies to pro-Trump and pro-Sanders stuff.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#184561: Apr 24th 2017 at 1:08:46 PM

[up] Yeah, i got that on a re-read. My apologies. It's why I edited my post.

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#184562: Apr 24th 2017 at 1:21:23 PM

Anyway, he's not the only former Sanders supporter here ("former" only because the election is over, and Sanders himself supported Clinton).

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#184563: Apr 24th 2017 at 1:30:25 PM

What exactly do we mean by "pro-Clinton" sites? Are we just talking news sources like the New York Times and the Washington Post, or are we talking forums and social media sites too?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#184564: Apr 24th 2017 at 1:32:08 PM

[up] He's talking about social media and forums too.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#184565: Apr 24th 2017 at 1:32:26 PM

[up][up] More social media sites, though you can find some news organizations that are strongly slanted in favor of the centrist wing of the democratic party, along with the converse.

edited 24th Apr '17 1:32:39 PM by CaptainCapsase

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#184566: Apr 24th 2017 at 2:14:24 PM

New Orleans begins removal of white supremacist monuments. Due to the mountain of death threats workers were fully masked, wearing bullet proof gear, and were escorted by police with snipers deployed across the rooftops to cover them.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#184567: Apr 24th 2017 at 2:38:24 PM

Can I ask, what the hell is the "beltway bubble" supposed to mean?

i'm tired, my friend
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#184568: Apr 24th 2017 at 2:44:51 PM

[up] The Washington DC policymaker centrist echo chamber. Though since centrism has more or less died out among the GOP, these days this is more or less confined to the centrist wing of the democrats. It's a perspective that's increasingly hard to find on the Internet these days for obvious reasons.

edited 24th Apr '17 2:47:13 PM by CaptainCapsase

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#184569: Apr 24th 2017 at 3:34:47 PM

I'd argue that the Beltway Buddle also includes media centerists, especially the "both sides are equally bad" lot that dominates the likes of CNN.

Oh and I'm another person who favoured Sanders a lot during the election, I've called a lot of people out on personally hating him or things like thinking he wasn't going to endorse Clinton.

As for presidential candidates, the Democrat governor of Louisiana has stood out to me as someone who could pull from a wide variety of voter pools, Bill Clinton style. Though personally I kinda like the idea of one of the Castro brothers running if they manage to win either the Texas senate seat or governorship in 2018, possibly with Warren as a VP candidate.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#184570: Apr 24th 2017 at 3:39:05 PM

I'm imagining right now Obama doing a campaign ad for one of the Castros and the slogan is something like "Vote once again for the guy with the 'suspicious' name".

Also, have a Cuban-American supporter saying "I love Castro. Beat Julian Castro."

Not familiar with the Louisiana gov. I'll look them up.

edited 24th Apr '17 3:40:37 PM by Hodor2

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#184571: Apr 24th 2017 at 3:40:23 PM

[up][up]Isn't the Louisiana governor anti-abortion?

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#184572: Apr 24th 2017 at 3:57:27 PM

He's not a candidate I'd like, but he'd probably be a solid tactical choice.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#184573: Apr 24th 2017 at 4:37:44 PM

Trump may or may not have essentially plagiarized the Holocaust Museum website in his speach on International Holocaust Remeberence Day, today.

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/330290-trump-holocaust-remembrance-speech-uses-same-wording-as-holocaust-museum?amp

edited 24th Apr '17 4:37:59 PM by megaeliz

FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#184574: Apr 24th 2017 at 4:41:04 PM

Some vigilantes in Arizona are gearing up and training to kill Nazis...

edited 24th Apr '17 4:41:48 PM by FireCrawler2002

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#184575: Apr 24th 2017 at 4:41:42 PM

Source?

[up]thanks

edited 24th Apr '17 5:12:55 PM by megaeliz


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