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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#184526: Apr 24th 2017 at 10:56:04 AM

Local, but relevant

[Yogurt maker] Chobani sues Alex Jones, Info Wars for defamation over Twin Falls assault coverage

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/business/article146411289.html

edited 24th Apr '17 11:06:14 AM by sgamer82

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#184527: Apr 24th 2017 at 11:24:03 AM

Yogurt has microorganisms that eats brain tissue and turn us into conforming lemmings. Jones is getting too close to the truth and that's why they're suing him.

Wake up, sheeple!

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#184528: Apr 24th 2017 at 11:25:25 AM

I've heard quite a bit about Kamala Harris a few months back, but I admit I don't know what she has done to make people believe that she is a possible future candidate.

I know that she was a state attorney and attorney general for California, and is now a Senator for California, but that is kind of it.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#184529: Apr 24th 2017 at 11:30:11 AM

Another local one

Free speech advocates rush to oppose Idaho’s ag-gag law in 9th Circuit appeal

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/business/article145847014.html

Journalists, book publishers, food-safety groups and labor unions have gone to court to fight the Idaho law that makes it illegal to secretly film animal abuse at farms and other agricultural facilities.

Twelve groups filed friend-of-the-court briefs with the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals contending that the so-called ag-gag law, which was struck down by an Idaho judge, violates the right to free speech. A hearing is scheduled next month on the state’s appeal.

“The Idaho Legislature enacted the law with one goal in mind: to silence a growing movement of citizen-journalists and activists that conduct undercover investigations of agricultural production facilities in order to expose mistreatment and otherwise horrific conditions of animals and workers alike,” wrote two journalism professors at New York University.

In contrast, no groups filed friend-of-the-court briefs on the side of Idaho.

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#184530: Apr 24th 2017 at 11:54:20 AM

All 100 US Senators are called to the White House to receive a Briefing on North Korea. It is unusual that all 100 Senators would be called at the same time for a briefing.

It looks like Trump really wants a war with North Korea.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#184531: Apr 24th 2017 at 11:54:48 AM

CNN asks What About The Children?!? as Democrats cuss while giving speeches

Causally saying shit = UNFORGIVABLE

Casually admitting to sexual assault = You win the Presidency

And of course, the Dems are "elitists, snobby, and out of touch" with the average American. But they're not allowed to curse casually like the average American.

@^$& this country!

edited 24th Apr '17 11:55:43 AM by NoName999

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#184532: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:04:05 PM

[up] @^$& CNN. Their fake-centrist "same thing, both sides" nonsense is a big part of why we're stuck with Trump now.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:04:19 PM by TrashJack

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#184533: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:06:45 PM

FUCK THE ONES WHO COMPLAINED FOR THE CUSSING INSTEAD OF THE FUCKING COUNTRY!

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#184534: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:11:12 PM

FYI, I was referring to the CNN guys.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#184535: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:18:06 PM

I'll keep it saying it. Corporate media but specifically cable news is awful.

Six corporate conglomerates (Disney, CBS Corporation, 21st Century Fox, Viacom, Time Warner, and Comcast) own the majority of mass media outlets in the United States. Such a uniformity of ownership means that stories which are critical of these corporations may often be underplayed in the media.The Telecommunications Act of 1996 enabled this handful of corporations to expand their power, and according to Howard Zinn, such mergers "enabled tighter control of information." Chris Hedges argues that corporate media control "of nearly everything we read, watch or hear" is an aspect of what political philosopher Sheldon Wolin calls inverted totalitarianism.

In the United States most media are operated for profit, and are usually funded by advertising. Stories critical of advertisers or their interests may be underplayed, while stories favorable to advertisers may be given more coverage.

Academics such as Mc Kay, Kathleen Hall Jamieson, and Hudson have described private U.S. media outlets as profit-driven. For the private media, profits are dependent on viewing figures, regardless of whether the viewers found the programs adequate or outstanding. The strong profit-making incentive of the American media leads them to seek a simplified format and uncontroversial position which will be adequate for the largest possible audience. The market mechanism only rewards media outlets based on the number of viewers who watch those outlets, not by how informed the viewers are, how good the analysis is, or how impressed the viewers are by that analysis.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#184536: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:26:41 PM

Re candidates, don't know about Kamala Harris, but from The Other Wiki, she sounds interesting. The experiences she had in California pertaining to immigration, including illegal immigration would be a good basis for Democrats taking a strong pro-immigration stance without the Free Trade association it had in Clinton's campaign.

Please not Cuomo. AFAIK he's not actually good/progressive on any issue. Basically, leftists hate him as much if not more than Clinton and Booker, and for better reason- So not only would he be a bad choice for uniting the Party, he'd just be a bad choice period.

I think Sherrod Brown would be a great choice. While I think some of his foreign policy stances are questionable, he basically has the right stances on every issue for both leftists and liberals and comes across as a very humble/down to earth/likable guy.

I'd also say that Kristen Gillebrand wouldn't be a bad choice in terms of the combination of liberalism and populism, although she basically had a 180 on some of her views, which makes me question a bit how that would play on the campaign trail.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#184537: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:32:43 PM

[up] I really don't want Cuomo either (I wouldn't mind DeBlasio however), but it's entirely possible he'll take a swing at it anyway, especially if there aren't any other centrist democrats in the race.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:42:56 PM by CaptainCapsase

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#184538: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:35:45 PM

The question, if he does, is will he be a legit contender or a Sanders Style Spoiler

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#184539: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:36:51 PM

[up] Sanders wasn't a spoiler, and the concept doesn't really mean much in primaries to begin with. If Cuomo goes for it and there isn't another centrist candidate in the race, I can't imagine him not being a contender, despite being a rather poor choice.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:38:07 PM by CaptainCapsase

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#184540: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:38:07 PM

[up] That may be, but the general consensus of just about everyone but MadSkillz seems to be that Sanders ultimately did a lot more harm than good.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:39:58 PM by sgamer82

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#184541: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:38:23 PM

[up][up][up]I don't think Cuomo is popular enough that any number of the people who support him would stay home during the election proper.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:38:31 PM by Mio

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#184542: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:40:33 PM

[up][up] And since when is tvtropes OTC an authoritative source on politics?

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#184543: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:41:00 PM

I'd be cool with Sherrod Brown if he was the nominee - he's my Senator, actually.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#184544: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:42:28 PM

[up][up] It's about as authoritative as any other place that discusses politics, really. A lot of talk about what should be done and how big a group of assholes the opposition is with little enough power to actively do anything outside of their individual local areas.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:43:04 PM by sgamer82

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#184545: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:44:26 PM

[up] Is it your only source on politics though, because it really shouldn't be. It's decent enough at offering the perspective of the beltway bubble, less so in regards to leftist opinions, and more or less shuts own the right wing entirely.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:45:35 PM by CaptainCapsase

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#184546: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:45:06 PM

Yeah I'd probably write in the socialist party's candidate by default if Cuomo won the nomination.

I live in California so I'm not worried about Trump winning this state.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#184547: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:45:54 PM

[up][up]I have one other board I follow and have a couple news feeds. This one's my most visited though, as I dislike the topic of politics enough to not go too far out of my way looking for it but appreciate its importance enough to not want to be completely ignorant.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:46:29 PM by sgamer82

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#184548: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:48:48 PM

Captain's right plus a quarter of the people here are foreigners.

You also only get a biased perspective if you only go to places full of the "I'm With Her" crowd.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:53:23 PM by MadSkillz

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#184549: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:50:12 PM

[up][up] And may I add that even if you vehemently disagree with people on the right, it's important to actually know what their opinions are, at the very least.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:50:20 PM by CaptainCapsase

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#184550: Apr 24th 2017 at 12:50:55 PM

Maybe, but see the aforementioned dislike of politics. I'm​ not going to go hunting for places to talk about it any more than I can help. Especially not with any expectation of the relative civility seen here.

I do occasionally look up right leaning news sites to see how they report on some stories.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:53:33 PM by sgamer82


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