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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#184476: Apr 24th 2017 at 6:23:14 AM

[up]Almost certainly the latter, Kasich is quiet but never mistake quiet for reasonable.

edited 24th Apr '17 6:24:24 AM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#184477: Apr 24th 2017 at 6:25:36 AM

Probably. I want to have people that I can respect in the Republican Party, but they need to earn it. I know people who were Republican until they went totally nuts, and now don't have anyone that represents their views.

edited 24th Apr '17 6:33:13 AM by megaeliz

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#184478: Apr 24th 2017 at 6:28:18 AM

[up]Understandable desire, I live in a red state and I would love reasonable Republicans to actually matter but unfortunately the party has been hopelessly corrupted by the Religious Right and Randroids.

edited 24th Apr '17 6:28:29 AM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#184479: Apr 24th 2017 at 6:29:01 AM

I'd like to see the methodology for that 96% poll, and the questions they asked.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#184480: Apr 24th 2017 at 6:32:09 AM

Well, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a republican but for most social accounts he is a RINO.

For the most part he is probably one of the few, if not the only, who treats global warming seriously in the GOP.

edited 24th Apr '17 6:36:03 AM by AngelusNox

Inter arma enim silent leges
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#184481: Apr 24th 2017 at 6:36:36 AM

[up] high profile person, you mean, plenty of people who lean conservitive economically believe in Climate change.

That's exactly it. Moderate Republicans deserve better than than this.

edited 24th Apr '17 6:38:52 AM by megaeliz

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#184482: Apr 24th 2017 at 6:38:52 AM

Ahnold has become more and more of a RINO with time. It's not just social issues — he's become more enthusiastic about the green economy as well. California rubbed off on him more than he or anyone else might be willing to admit, and the GOP in general has been off its meds for a while, so the shift isn't surprising.

Also, let's not whitewash Kasich. The guy is a virulently anti-choice bastard, but he doesn't have a high profile, so that gets ignored.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#184483: Apr 24th 2017 at 6:40:51 AM

Commenting more on just what was in the article, than anything else.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#184484: Apr 24th 2017 at 6:44:12 AM

[up][up][up]While I'm sure that there are conservative people who believe in Climate Change unfortunately none of them seem to have any influence or power in the GOP itself, so they don't really matter. At-least when it comes to actual capability to implement policy.

And honestly I'm not sure if Moderate Republicans even exist beyond the local level.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#184485: Apr 24th 2017 at 6:46:33 AM

Well, Republican political advancement is a filtering process that selects against reasonable people. So it's no surprise that they get nuttier as you go up the ranks. Or, more properly, they stratify into two main camps: the "establishment" camp that has sacrificed anything resembling intellectual integrity in order to hang onto the pocketbooks of the wealthy (Boehner, Ryan); and the "freedom" camp that consists of True Believers of the most extreme elements of the party's ideology and refuses to compromise ever.

Trump is a bit of an anomaly in that he doesn't fall cleanly into either camp. But he also never entered politics prior to his run for President, so he is an exception that proves the rule.

edited 24th Apr '17 6:47:42 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#184486: Apr 24th 2017 at 7:08:44 AM

Trump was basically a Sure, Let's Go with That moment for the Republicans which either went Gone Horribly Wrong or Gone Horribly Right because for them, all their candidates were kinda shit and had no real chance to win.

Inter arma enim silent leges
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#184487: Apr 24th 2017 at 7:17:29 AM

The "resaonable" local Republicans arguably serve as a Mask of Sanity for the GOP as a whole.

Disgusted, but not surprised
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#184488: Apr 24th 2017 at 7:29:37 AM

Trump Brags About Getting Higher Ratings Than 9/11

Can you imagine the shitstorm is a Democrat said this?

edited 24th Apr '17 7:31:23 AM by NoName999

StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#184489: Apr 24th 2017 at 7:36:19 AM

[up]One could easily infer that Trump getting elected has more people scared than 9/11...

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#184490: Apr 24th 2017 at 7:36:54 AM

9/11 = 11/9,surprised

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#184491: Apr 24th 2017 at 7:38:04 AM

[up]x3 Stay classy.

edited 24th Apr '17 7:38:13 AM by speedyboris

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#184492: Apr 24th 2017 at 7:38:07 AM

[up]like always, he will get Away with this like he usually does

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#184493: Apr 24th 2017 at 7:50:11 AM

Time for a little rant because this has been eating me up the last couple days. I keep thinking about how in recent history the stereotypical "American" culture is often equated with Southern culture. Country music, cowboys, hunting, etc. This pisses me off, because the states that embrace this culture are the same states that joined the Confederacy, ie a bunch of traitors. Their culture is American in the sense that it's unique to North America, but that's it.

And it disgusts me that people treat this with any kind of respect. There's a professor at my community college that has a confederate flag in his office. It disgusts me that after the Civil War, the Confederacy essentially got to live on. It's like the Union didn't even really win it. And most of ll, it disgusts me when dumbass rednecks think they're more patriotic while they embrace the culture and lifestyle of a people who betrayed what America was supposed to stand for. I can't stand the hypocrisy. And just to make them even bigger hypocrites, they all voted for a New York putz.

edited 24th Apr '17 7:51:48 AM by StarOutlaw

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#184494: Apr 24th 2017 at 7:52:53 AM

I'm pretty sure that even with the number of Trump voters, he will already cause too much shitstorm that it may decrease and a probably popular dem candidate will get the votes from the electoral voters, regardless of what some articles say of the future after Trump ensuring the complete fragmentation of the USA.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#184495: Apr 24th 2017 at 7:52:57 AM

[up][up]Ah yes, the Americans Are Cowboys and Eagle Land tropes.

Speaking of which, Mayor of the Big Easy is undeterred in the removal of confederate monuments

edited 24th Apr '17 7:59:29 AM by MorningStar1337

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#184496: Apr 24th 2017 at 7:58:28 AM

Trump is so incomprehensible, the AP transcript had transcribed his words as "(unintelligible)" 16 different times

So in addition to hateful comments, Trump can spout literal nonsense and get away with it. Howard Dean yells "YEAH" that one time in a moment of happiness, and that makes him unqualified.

Fucking hell, maybe the reason the Dems can't win is because they're held to a standard only worthy for the divine while the Republicans are held to the standard of a 4 year old.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#184497: Apr 24th 2017 at 8:03:01 AM

[up] Please tell me that's a joke...

edited 24th Apr '17 8:03:24 AM by Luigisan98

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#184499: Apr 24th 2017 at 8:10:44 AM

This is why we need an independent investigation of Trump/Russia. The Sanate investigation committee has no full time staff.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/330164-report-senates-russia-probe-understaffed?amp

StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#184500: Apr 24th 2017 at 8:11:17 AM

Yeah, the thing that Southerners and Trump have in common is that they're both the Boorish type of American, which isn't just limited to the South.

I'm okay with type 1, obviously, and I'm a bit more lenient on the Americans Are Cowboys trope because most "cowboys" were further out west, and that aesthetic was adopted by the South. But it still really pisses me the fuck off when some hick tries to pull off the "tough, patriotic American" act. The Confederacy was as bad as Nazi Germany, or had the potential to be it and far worse if it hadn't been dealt with, and a great many problems in America are due to its legacy. And it feels like we'll always be fighting the Civil War, maybe not literally but culturally. We're fighting for the soul of the country.

And really, every gun-nut evengelical conservative redneck dickhead can go fuck themselves if they try to convince me they're patriotic. They're traitors to the Union and what it stands for. They are bullies who always attack those who are more vulnerable than them. They're the assholes that called other kids fags in school, and the psycho who thinks it's okay to shoot up a pizza place or a church. They're the sadists that have fun making other people suffer and treat everything as a joke until they start getting hurt, and then they act like a victim. I have nothing but contempt for these traitors.

edited 24th Apr '17 8:19:33 AM by StarOutlaw


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