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pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#184426: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:21:52 PM

I think we can all agree on the Stupid part, at least.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#184427: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:22:08 PM

[up][up]That makes sense

edited 23rd Apr '17 6:22:18 PM by megaeliz

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#184428: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:27:08 PM

Trump is Stupid Evil with a Crippling Overspecialization in conning people that unfortunately helped him win the election.

As for why FOX and others on the right wing seem to be suffering after winning...again, I'm reminded of that Lincoln quote I keep repeating in this thread.

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#184429: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:31:53 PM

They're bad winners, or they can't win for losing, or they may have won the battle, but they won't win the war? Which of these phrases fits the best?

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#184430: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:33:06 PM

[up] No. 3, which is essentially a Pyrrhic Victory, I think fits the best.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#184431: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:34:35 PM

[up] They won at the cost of jettisoning their veneer of civility and whatever supposed principles they had.

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IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#184432: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:37:15 PM

Nah, Trump is True Stupid.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#184433: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:39:30 PM

[up] There's stupidity, malice, immaturity, and possibly a hint of madness — though I'm not willing to armchair psychoanalyze him, there's clearly something wrong with this man.

edited 23rd Apr '17 6:39:49 PM by M84

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#184434: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:42:27 PM

[up][up][up] I would also say that Trump has completely ruined the Relationship of the Republicans with the majority of Millennials (Though this relationship was dying by 2013), is breaking the Relationship of the Party with the majority of Gen X'ers and Democrats (These relationships were straining already), and is also starting to tear up the Relationship of the Party with the Tea Party, the group that gave them power in 2009+!

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#184435: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:45:21 PM

Since we're on the subject of Trumps talent of Conning people, this is an interesting take on how he does it.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/23/why-trump-really-believes-hes-the-most-successful-president-ever-215063

edited 23rd Apr '17 6:46:40 PM by megaeliz

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#184436: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:46:50 PM

I have been thinking recently that a lot of it is learned behaviour. A lot of what Trump does is like a caricature of a self-centered businessman from the 50s. I'm thinking that maybe Trump's father was actually really bad at teaching his methods, since Trump makes some really stupid mistakes on a regular basis. Things like apparently never doing any market research (Trump steaks. There's no way that Trump steaks makes any sense to anyone over 4) or the way that Trump is apparently really bad at corporate-level negotiation.

[up] "He could sell ice to an Eskimo." Well not if he calls them that. It's an insult.

edited 23rd Apr '17 6:49:05 PM by Zendervai

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#184437: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:52:47 PM

[up][up][up]I wish, but then you look at the amount of young people who're altright, and the kind of reach those have on youtube... I'm somewhat worried.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#184438: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:54:29 PM

Young people are often reactionary and driven to the extreme end of one side or another. Most of us have grown up in a generally more diverse and accepting world, and know people who would be affected by these policies. This is the only world we remember, and we think it's better in a lot of ways then what came before it, but also recogize that there is still a lot room for improvement.

edited 23rd Apr '17 7:00:57 PM by megaeliz

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#184440: Apr 23rd 2017 at 6:58:09 PM

[up][up][up] But then you remember the immense backlash from these Alt-Right Youtubers and Propagandists (including some of them getting hit multiple times), and things look better. You also have to remember that the Alt-Right is a new, small movement, and with Trump's 'betrayal' for their cause, the movement may die in it's infancy.

edited 23rd Apr '17 6:58:50 PM by DingoWalley1

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#184441: Apr 23rd 2017 at 7:04:46 PM

Trump is divorced from reality and lives in a state of denial, where he is the center of his own little universe. Eventually, it'll catch up with him and he'll suffer a total meltdown.

And I can't wait to see it happen.

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#184442: Apr 23rd 2017 at 7:25:32 PM

I'm worried about the implications of the alt-right in the future, but I don't think they're THAT numerous at present. They just seem prevalent because they're loud and obnoxious.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#184443: Apr 23rd 2017 at 7:27:53 PM

[up][up]Like the article describes, I'm honestly afraid that it will never happen. That Trump is going to serve 8 years as President and be remembered by half the country as a respected President who would've been even better if not for the "deep government" or whatever holding him back. Because he's not the only one living divorced from reality.

Ingonyama Since: Jan, 2001
#184444: Apr 23rd 2017 at 7:35:12 PM

Former Trump Campaign Chair, Tim Nolan, Arrested on Child Trafficking Charges

Everyone who's surprised, raise your hand.

edited 24th Apr '17 2:21:15 AM by Ingonyama

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#184445: Apr 23rd 2017 at 7:35:36 PM

[up]x5 That's with the "I didn't know he was altright" youtubers (Jontron). The unashamedly right wing shitheads (Sargon, Molyneux, etc) are way too popular for comfort.

edited 23rd Apr '17 7:36:07 PM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#184446: Apr 23rd 2017 at 7:40:56 PM

It really makes you wonder with Pizzagate was it really just projection....

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#184447: Apr 23rd 2017 at 7:43:33 PM

[up] Nearly every accusation the right wing has thrown at the Democratic Party and HRC in particular has been projection so far...

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#184448: Apr 23rd 2017 at 7:47:03 PM

That's been pretty obviously all along. It's pretty difficult to mentally frame yourself as "the bad guy" so most of these people honestly think that everyone else is just as crooked as them, if not moreso.

It's the same with the people against being "politically correct". They honestly think that the silent majority shares their disgusting viewpoints and is simply being bullied to keep quiet about it. Because they cannot conceive of a world in which other people actually want to be nice to each other.

edited 23rd Apr '17 7:48:27 PM by Clarste

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#184449: Apr 23rd 2017 at 7:51:04 PM

That article about how Trump cons people reminds me of a few things, like Don Quixote and this Thomas Edison quote: "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." I think that Trump has the same attitude as Edison.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#184450: Apr 23rd 2017 at 7:56:02 PM

Trump doesn't believe that anything he's ever done has failed to work. And, quite frankly, he's right. Because he's always managed to come out of every failure even more famous and successful than before. While leaving behind a trail of ruined investors and customers who trusted him. Is it really "failure" when you're consistently profiting off of the misery of others? That's what I'm afraid of here: that Trump isn't "failing" and will not "fail" at the Presidency. He'll just leave the country in a smoking wreck while making off 8 years later with a tidy profit and a clean reputation among enough people to matter.

edited 23rd Apr '17 7:56:49 PM by Clarste


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