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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#184326: Apr 22nd 2017 at 7:14:13 PM

There was probably like a thousand people? I'm not very good at gauging that kinda stuff but there was a good turnout in my opinion. Lots of focus on the environment, lotta chanting, singing, and cheering, overall was a pretty orderly experience. I was joined by a bunch of the younger people in my lab so it was also kind of a neat social experience.

edited 22nd Apr '17 7:15:55 PM by AlleyOop

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#184327: Apr 22nd 2017 at 7:15:29 PM

[up][up] And Trump still hasn't learned that skipping out on something like that doesn't make you look strong, it makes you look utterly pathetic.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#184328: Apr 22nd 2017 at 7:16:35 PM

Someone will manage to spin this as Trump denying the elites to feast with the People.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#184329: Apr 22nd 2017 at 7:45:30 PM

I mean, it's denying the elites to stand on a stage and look down at the people.

edited 22nd Apr '17 7:45:57 PM by Gilphon

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#184330: Apr 22nd 2017 at 7:57:09 PM

How often are Correspondents' Dinners held? Because it seems like this is the third one he's skipped.

edited 22nd Apr '17 7:57:20 PM by sgamer82

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#184331: Apr 22nd 2017 at 8:07:38 PM

It's annual, he's just announced he isn't going like five times now.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#184332: Apr 22nd 2017 at 8:13:21 PM

Re: The bullshit lawyer argument on the previous page: If the judge of that protestor case has any brains, he'll allow the case to continue. Trump's lawyers are flat-out arguing in favor of oppression, and that should not stand.

edited 22nd Apr '17 8:13:42 PM by speedyboris

Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#184334: Apr 22nd 2017 at 10:17:32 PM

I was at the DC March For Science today. Bad weather, great turnout. The crowd cheered and chanted "EPA!" when we passed its headquarters.

Do you highlight everything looking for secret messages?
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#184335: Apr 22nd 2017 at 10:55:44 PM

The idea of suing someone because they were sexually aroused by them is so loathsome. It's been bothering me ever since I read about it. There's no way this is actually going through, right?

Do not obey in advance.
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#184336: Apr 23rd 2017 at 12:55:06 AM

[up] I feel that the mindset of blaming the woman for being sexy or attractive is tantamount to the blamer Feeling Oppressed by Their Existence

In other news, I posted this on the TFS&L thread, but this is more of a privacy matter than a directly related to Free Speech, so I'm posting it here as well

edited 23rd Apr '17 12:56:15 AM by MorningStar1337

Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#184337: Apr 23rd 2017 at 1:02:27 AM

Pretty sure that guy is gonna get blacklisted from that. Atleast one could hope that he would.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#184338: Apr 23rd 2017 at 1:21:33 AM

The DHS is gunning for foreigners' social media passwords.

edited 23rd Apr '17 1:22:11 AM by MorningStar1337

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#184339: Apr 23rd 2017 at 1:26:57 AM

A page or so back: A budget cannot be filibustered. There is a special law that governs budget procedure that disallows filibusters.

However, a "budget" under US law is not the same thing as what people would call a "budget". It is basically a guideline for the finance committees who have to write the actual spending bills - the appropriations. These are the actual financing mechanisms, not the "budget".

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#184340: Apr 23rd 2017 at 3:48:52 AM

4 Boarder states bawk at the Wall. What was surprising to me was that even Texas is rejecting it.

(FYI the article came form the WSJ so its paywalled and probably biased.)

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#184341: Apr 23rd 2017 at 4:04:59 AM

[up] Makes sense. They're the ones whose economies, property, and wildlife will be fucked by the wall.

edited 23rd Apr '17 4:23:35 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#184342: Apr 23rd 2017 at 4:48:03 AM

Trump will even bluff of the shutdown favoring him, remember his approval ratings...

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#184343: Apr 23rd 2017 at 4:51:21 AM

[up] Even if Teflon Trump manages to avoid taking a hit in approval for it, there's still a chance the Republican Congress will suffer for it. They're not quite as good at dodging the blame.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#184344: Apr 23rd 2017 at 4:54:31 AM

[up] Maybe, but I can guarantee you that the voters will forget all about this by 2018 and 2020, just like they forgot about the 2013 shutdown.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#184345: Apr 23rd 2017 at 4:57:55 AM

[up] Possibly, but at the very least it might help with upcoming special elections.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#184346: Apr 23rd 2017 at 5:11:13 AM

What was surprising to me was that even Texas is rejecting it.

Mexican trade is a massive part of the Texan economy; if I recall the trade statistics correctly, Texas is actually more dependent on Mexican trade than any other US state. Without trade access to Mexico, the Texan economy will collapse. The Texans in charge of the state know that they'll be facing an economic meltdown if Trump gets even half his anti-Mexican ideas working.

Regarding my post a few pages back: I'm explicitly talking about the people who voted for Trump in the first place. Like I said, there's nothing factual about this position but the people who voted for Trump will lap up anti-Democratic spin. The people who see through it, didn't vote for Trump in the first place.

My point is that if you're hoping that the government shutdown will change people's positions on Trump, you're going to be disappointed. That's what became clear from the Brexit court case that occurred in the UK, and why I compared the two situations. Brexit voters lapped up the spin and have regurgitated it ever since. The people who understood what the court case was about didn't vote for Brexit in the first place.

And, like Trashjack, I think if anyone is hoping Trump's behaviour now will translate into Blue Waves in a year or four, I think will probably be disappointed as well. People have short memories. The people who remember all this won't have voted for Trump in the first place. Every one else will have moved on. Trump needs to be making these kinds of screw-ups at the time of the elections, not a couple of years in the past. And even then, we might find ourselves dealing with Trump fatigue (people just becoming numb and unresponsive to his latest acts).

edited 23rd Apr '17 5:16:43 AM by Wyldchyld

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#184347: Apr 23rd 2017 at 5:14:15 AM

[up] Hopefully it will at least galvanize people who didn't vote for either HRC or Trump to go against the Republicans.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#184348: Apr 23rd 2017 at 5:29:23 AM

@Trash Jack...you seem to always think lowly...

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#184349: Apr 23rd 2017 at 5:40:05 AM

Not so sure about that belief stability. The vote margin 2016 in Texas was much narrower than in 2012. And before anybody says "internal migration", such a shift has been observed in other places with similar demographics but not much internal migration - California's Orange County, most notably.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#184350: Apr 23rd 2017 at 5:46:47 AM

One thing to keep in mind is that the short memories thing only applies when the events don't happen to the people in question. If the wall is build and Texas' economy collapses entirely because of the wall, the Texans will remember that, because it happened to them.

Like, if mass deportations begin to happen, instead of the weird piecemeal approach being used right now, the farming states are going to get angry, becuase the illegal immigrants are the only people who work on a lot of the farms for the pathetic wages they offer.


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