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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I dunno if I believe the majority of people will be stupid enough to buy that. I mean, lots of people probably are that dumb, but... the GOP has a majority. There's no getting around that. And this'd be the second time in less than two months where they still fail to push their agenda through despite that. I don't believe the majority of people will ever buy the notion that the Democrats are somehow at fault with such obvious logic holes.
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On top of it being Trump saying "I might not sign a budget that doesn't have my whims in it", and the sporadic nature of Trump and his administration, if the Government does shut down, or just barely avoids a shut down through an over-ridden Spending Bill, Trump will look to be the main man at fault. Yes, both the Republican and Democrat Parties will take some blame, but Trump is the one who is causing this stupid drama for no reason, and most people will see that.
Remember, Obama was painted as a Tyrant in his first 2 years for doing everything he could without threatening to destroy the Government. The American People will see that Trump is acting much more tyrannical then Obama ever could.
edited 22nd Apr '17 5:42:57 PM by DingoWalley1
if anyone is interested in keeping up with what the Right wing propoganda machine is spewing out, this is really useful. It catalouges everything they say onto one site.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/
It's sort of funny, until you realize that people believe this stuff. Then it's just depressing
edited 22nd Apr '17 6:02:29 PM by megaeliz
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You have a great deal of faith in the American people. Personally, I predict that this won't change a thing. The people who hated Trump before now will still hate him, his cultists will still worship him, and the Republicans who "reluctantly" voted for him in '16 will grumble about it now but when push comes to shove, they won't dare do a thing about it (and yes, that includes voting against him in 2020, because you know they'll enable any lunatic as long as they've got an R next to their name).
I was looking through the Obama heading, and this was one of my favorites, simply for the irony.
edited 22nd Apr '17 6:09:12 PM by megaeliz
Yeah. But it's not at all inconsistent with fundamentalist behavior. Anyone who's not willing to enact (or at least enable) their tyranny gets the "Antichrist" or "Satan incarnate" label slapped on them. But the second that the scummiest scumbag who ever bagged scum starts courting their demographic, they worship the damned ground he treads upon.
Here you go.
Honestly looking through the posts, it's scary how fully people have embraced the propaganda spit out by these sources.
Also did you guys know that O'Reilly being fired and Jones' custody battle are actually part of a deep state conspiracy to silence Trump supporters, and Donald Trump is under house arrest by the shadow government?
edited 22nd Apr '17 6:31:11 PM by megaeliz
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/
It's sort of funny, until you realize that people believe this stuff. Then it's just depressing
An aside: The top featured story (a defense of O’Reilly) read: "Michael Reagan: Men Should Sue Women For ‘Sexual Arousal
edited 22nd Apr '17 6:50:54 PM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our livesBill Nye calls Devos and Pruitt the least qualifies people on the planet to head their agencies.
edited 22nd Apr '17 6:56:51 PM by megaeliz
Bill still pisses me off with some of his comments, but what really gets me steamed is when he steps into a science argument as an 'expert' and proceeds to use faulty methods or shoddy constructs to arrive at a point that seems to be predetermined-I am still appalled at what he did during that 'deflategate' mess with the New England Patriots a couple of years ago.
Donald Trump (or more likely the person tweeting for him) had the nerve to tweet this on earth day, when he wants to dismantle the EPA, defund the Department of the Interior, is a climate change denier, and is an advocate of "Clean Coal".
"Today on Earth Day, we celebrate our beautiful forests, lakes and land. We stand committed to preserving the natural beauty of our nation.
edited 22nd Apr '17 7:00:56 PM by megaeliz
From Santa Fe to Berlin (and more!)
March for Science: Rallies worldwide to protest against political interference
The first-ever March for Science, which was timed to coincide with Earth Day, was aimed at promoting action to protect the environment.
Organisers said it was a celebration of science and a call to support and safeguard the scientific community.
The main event was held in Washington DC.
The event's promoters said the march in the US capital was not aimed against President Donald Trump, while adding that his administration had "catalysed" the movement.
At the demonstration in Washington DC, Dr Jonathan Foley, the executive director of the California Academy of Sciences, said that research was being irrationally questioned, adding that attacks from politicians "amounted to oppression".
"They're specifically targeting science that protects our health, our safety and the environment. Science that protects the most vulnerable among us," he said.
"Some people will suffer, some could even die," Dr Foley added.
In London, scientists and science enthusiasts marched from the Science Museum to Parliament Square.
Many were protesting against what they consider to be an "alarming trend" among politicians for discrediting their research.
Organisers are of the view that it can be challenging for scientists to communicate with the public and are even actively encouraging scientists to become politicians so that their voices can be effectively heard.
The Latest: Thousands join global rallies for science
Kathryn Oakes Hall pinned a sign to the back of her T-shirt as she made her way to the march in Santa Fe, New Mexico: "Nine months pregnant, so mad I'm here."
"I'd rather be sitting on the couch," she said.
But she marched anyway because she worried about her baby's future in a world that seems to consider science disposable. Her husband is an engineer at Los Alamos National Laboratory, she studied anthropology, she even has a dog named rocket.
So they joined thousands marching in Santa Fe, many of whom stopped her to remark on her pregnancy, with a mix of administration and concern.
She wore a white T-shirt, with a drawing of the earth stretched over her belly, and carried a sign that read "evidence-based policy and not policy-based evidence."
Ice photographer and filmmaker James Balog, who says he was watched trillions of tons of ice melt, told the Washington crowd that talking about the science of climate change in the face of the Trump administration and climate change deniers is "a battle between objective reality and ideological fiction."
Pennsylvania State University's Michael Mann got a loud cheer just for his sentence "I am a climate scientist."
Mann, who first created the hockey stick that showed a spike in recent global temperatures after thousands of years said, "there was no more noble pursuit than seeking to insure that policy is informed by the objective assessment of scientific evidence."
Software engineer Bill Wood of Rockville, Maryland, had a plastic protected sign that read "things are so bad even the introverts had to come out."
Thousands of people stood outside the Washington Monument amid bouts of downpours, listening to a mix of speeches and music. Speakers noted that President Trump was in the White House nearby, having cancelled a weekend in New Jersey.
This was the first protest for Jeannette Villabon and her son Nikko Chey of Stanhope, New Jersey. So Villabon went all out, donning a Tyrannosaurus rex costume and holding a sign that said: "Hey tiny hands fund EPA study. Quit being cretaceous."
Trump's "archaic thinking is going to ruin us all," Villabon said.
Other signs were only slightly less pointed, such as "edit genes not the truth," ''data not dogma" and "global warming is real. Trump is the hoax."
So apparently Trump plans on skipping the annual Correspondent's Dinner
in favor of attending a campaign rally in Pennsylvania on the same night/time.
Coincidentally, Woodward & Bernstein are slated to host the dinner.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"

Sadly, I believe it'll be easy for the Trump administration to spin it precisely because the Republicans control everything.
All they have to say is that the government being held hostage by a minority of people (Democrats) is proof that the Democrats have no interest in practising democracy. The Democrats will be painted as anti-democratic and trying to destroy the democratically elected will of the people (who voted for Trump and the Republicans).
They'll be painted as trying to destroy democracy just to get their own way and Trump is the strongman standing firm against their selfish bullying for the sake of the American people.
That's what the Trump voting base will lap up because their attitude towards democracy is 'I'm in control; do as I say'.
It's exactly what's been going on over on this side of the Pond. The Leave campaign (who used Trump election campaign organisers to run the Leave campaign) ran on the 'take control' ideology (leave the undemocratic EU, take back control of British government and laws). When the government was taken to court over whether or not it could trigger Article 50 without involving Parliament, it was painted in the media (which is predominantly Leave supporting) as an anti-democratic attempt to destroy the will of the majority.
The truth is that sovereignty does not lie with the government, and definitely not with the prime minister; UK sovereignty lies with Parliament. It is Parliament that makes and breaks laws, not the government. The government was trying to do an end-run around Parliament to make itself completely unaccountable to Parliament and therefore completely unaccountable to UK law (the very thing the Leave campaign claimed the EU does, in fact).
Showing a complete lack of knowledge about how UK sovereignty actually works and therefore completely oblivious to the fact that the court case was designed to protect them from an anti-democratic action by the ruling party, the Leave voters lapped up the spin that the Remainers were trying to sabotage both democracy and the will of the people.
This is the how the shutdown will be spun against the Democrats.
edited 22nd Apr '17 5:14:12 PM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.