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Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#183976: Apr 20th 2017 at 10:37:19 AM

[up]x3 Eh, not entirely true, most of the older people in my life have changed markedly over the past couple years or so. Mainly for the worse, admittedly, but still...

Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#183977: Apr 20th 2017 at 10:39:59 AM

[up] Was that supposed to be reassuring? Because it's really not reassuring.

Now I'm imagining Trump becoming even worse.

edited 20th Apr '17 10:41:08 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#183978: Apr 20th 2017 at 10:48:28 AM

Re: Heath Mello: I honestly don't care whether Sanders is backing him, I'm voting for him because I would vote for an actually blue-hair-dyed dog before the resident GOP scumbags.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#183979: Apr 20th 2017 at 10:51:49 AM

Sanders has been nationally relevant for a long time. He's the father of the Progressive Caucus in the Democratic Party so he does have some legitimacy in saying who is a progressive in the US although some of us may not agree on that definition.

If he is so loved then running an actual Democratic candidate won't hurt him but it might dispel some of the aura of perfection that seems to constructed for himself. If he isn't we could get a senator who will still vote with the Democrats but isn't being a giant ass about other Democrats not being his kind of progressive.

It's a waste of money and you'll being shooting the party in the foot. In fact, I would call it nearly party-breaking.

Worry about winning seats first rather than about unseating allies.

Perfect is the enemy of good.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#183980: Apr 20th 2017 at 10:59:09 AM

[up] Following this discussion, I can't help but feel that you saying "Perfect is the enemy of good." feels disingenuous because that's exactly what Sanders is allowing by claiming an unexpectedly strong Democratic candidate is "not a progressive" while stumping for a Blue Dog who fits his personal ideals better.

edited 20th Apr '17 10:59:51 AM by sgamer82

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#183981: Apr 20th 2017 at 10:59:18 AM

[up][up] In other words, if he hasn't figured out tact by now, he's not going to figure it out any time soon.

edited 20th Apr '17 10:59:28 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#183982: Apr 20th 2017 at 11:05:04 AM

I mean, I can agree that trying to primary Sanders would be a terrible idea, and not just because it'd be unlikely to work.

SophiaLonesoul Since: Apr, 2012
#183983: Apr 20th 2017 at 11:17:39 AM

@ Madskillz

Worry about winning seats first rather than about unseating allies.

The problem is that he is not comporting himself like an ally. He is actively sabotaging the party, regardless of whether it is on purpose or not. He needs to have the negative effects of his influence reigned in.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#183984: Apr 20th 2017 at 11:19:13 AM

Following this discussion, I can't help but feel that you saying "Perfect is the enemy of good." feels disingenuous because that's exactly what Sanders is allowing by claiming an unexpectedly strong Democratic candidate is "not a progressive" while stumping for a Blue Dog who fits his personal ideals better.

I don't have a direct line to Sanders or else I would tell him the same.

Nitpick but Mello isn't a Blue Dog. He's too left on the economic issues to be a Blue Dog

We don't really know what his opinions on social issues are just that he has a horrible view on abortion. I looked but I couldn't find anything.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#183985: Apr 20th 2017 at 11:25:06 AM

The problem is that he is not comporting himself like an ally. He is actively sabotaging the party, regardless of whether it is on purpose or not. He needs to have the negative effects of his influence reigned in.

There's not much you can do about that. I think any real course of action against Bernie would hurt the party more by far than it would help.

He's basically made himself invulnerable.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#183986: Apr 20th 2017 at 11:35:36 AM

EPA put out a video where they went to a Chicago meeting and literally muted residents comments.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rjeCYLbVFdE

Bill O'Reilly will be paid tens of millions of dollars as pay out from Fox News

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/20/media/bill-oreilly-millions-payout/

Jason Chaffetz is considering not finishing his reelection term.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/329716-chaffetz-considering-early-departure-from-congress?amp

edited 20th Apr '17 11:41:24 AM by megaeliz

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#183987: Apr 20th 2017 at 11:52:53 AM

O'Reilly can cry himself to sleep on his giant pile of money. Makes me feel sooooo sorry for the guy. I guess they decided to pay him to leave.

edited 20th Apr '17 11:53:31 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#183988: Apr 20th 2017 at 11:58:10 AM

Must be nice to get paid upon being fired...

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Lost in Space
#183990: Apr 20th 2017 at 12:04:33 PM

Well, it does give the people suing Fox (and now O'Reilly personally, I presume) a nice figure to go after for damages.

Edited to add: The Trump team is gearing up for a budget fight that would potentially give this administration a new first in U.S. politics: a government shutdown when one party controls both Congress and the White House.

The substance of the fight is that Trump's people are getting rather short-tempered over their total lack of any meaningful achievements in the first 100 days, and are threatening to withhold his signature on any budget bill that does not provide significantly increased funding for the border wall, surveillance, and the military. Congress, however, has shown every indication of kicking the can down the road until the fall.

If there is no budget and no continuing resolution by April 28, the government shuts down.

edited 20th Apr '17 12:10:24 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#183991: Apr 20th 2017 at 12:07:46 PM

Hopefully Hannity gets fired too.

He's even more of a Trump shill than O'Reilly.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#183992: Apr 20th 2017 at 12:14:10 PM

Article in Spanish, but apparently Nicolás Maduro (president of Venezuela) donated half a million dollars to Trump's inauguration, through a subsidiary of Venezuela's "Petróleos de Venezuela" (state owned oil producer).

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
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#183993: Apr 20th 2017 at 12:20:37 PM

One scumbag endorses the other, I see?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#183994: Apr 20th 2017 at 12:23:33 PM

[up]x4 Either that or they extend the deadline a couple more weeks. Wouldn't be the first time it's happened.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#183995: Apr 20th 2017 at 12:23:46 PM

You know speaking of that, anyone wanna guess who is funding Trump?

The Patriots' owner, oil companies like Chevron, AT&T and tech companies like Microsoft and Google.

Maybe I should switch to using yahoo.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#183996: Apr 20th 2017 at 12:28:51 PM

[up] ... Internet-Based Companies are sponsoring Trump? The man who's avidly anti-Net Neutrality?

... Maybe they're only sponsoring him to try and reverse that.

@Maduro trying to ally with Trump: Of course he would; Strongmen either attract one another or repel each other. And I don't recall Trump ever being critical of Venezuela's current Regime (at least, not recently).

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#183997: Apr 20th 2017 at 12:30:55 PM

Mary B. McCord is stepping down in May. Who is she, you ask? She was leading the DOJ's investigation into the Trump-Russia ties.

Really hope the investigation doesn't just quietly die because of this.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#183998: Apr 20th 2017 at 12:39:21 PM

[up]wild mass guessHer and Chaffetz that close to each other could point towards a bombshell about to dropwild mass guess.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#183999: Apr 20th 2017 at 12:39:50 PM

Few things just from this page.

1) Keep in mind that O'Reilly was fired for allegations of sexual harassment (and the resulting loss of ad revenue), not for his political viewpoints.

2) The reason O'Reilly got such a nice bonus is due to his contract stipulating such if he was ever dismissed from the position - bet Fox News is kicking itself for not including some form of "Morality Clause" in there that would negate it, though O'Reilly likely wouldn't have signed if there were.

And in other news, there's something I haven't noticed get posted here yet - NY State is officially offering free tuition to Public colleges (Community and SUNY/CUNY schools) with a few major strings attached.

  • It's only towards a Bachelor's or Associate's degree - higher than that, and the student is on their own. Additionally, if you have an Associate's already, you must go for a Bachelor's to qualify, and those with a Bachelor's already are SOL. Also, it's only for Tuition - room & board is left to the student and their family.
  • You have to have at least 30 credit hours per year to maintain it, though how that's divided is up to the student
  • Upon completion, you have to reside in NY for the same length of time you received the scholarship, or else pay back the difference if you move out of state.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#184000: Apr 20th 2017 at 12:44:08 PM

The Trump team is gearing up for a budget fight that would potentially give this administration a new first in U.S. politics: a government shutdown when one party controls both Congress and the White House.
Translation for perspective: A government shutdown during conditions in which a government shutdown is the least likely to otherwise occur?


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