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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
And Bill O'Reilly is officially fired from Fox News.
https://mobile.twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/854764369422540800
Today is a good day
Mrs. Handel has history. She has already lost two elections, and though that means she has great experience campaigning, 1) there's reason for those losses and 2) much of the GOP field considered her unelectable. For the past several weeks the GOP have been attacking each other more than Ossoff and they've painted Handel as everything from a closet liberal to a champagne-sipping upper class twit to a dimwitted religious fanatic. (Also "establishment" but that label is a plus in this district.)
Don't forget, the race got rather personal between camps, and, despite the quick endorsements by the losers, the vitriol could shave off those people who don't want to hold their noses and vote Handel. Lastly, she seems to be making the cardinal mistake of embracing Trump, which can only do wonders for her, especially if Trump doesn't manage to stay silent for three months. Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
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I think the idea of O'Reilly working at Breitbart would be a case of Everyone Has Standards, as O'Reilly - as much of a demagogue as he is - is moderate compared to those assholes.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"Man, does Sanders not realize how bad outright saying "No, I'm an Independent" sounds, regardless of the context? I really hope he doesn't plan on running for 2020. His primaries opponents will have a field day replaying those words. It's bad enough that he returned to being an Independent after his campaign manager Jeff Weaver claimed he would remain a Democrat after the election back in April 2016.
Between this and that tweeted article...do Sanders and his team just not get optics?
edited 19th Apr '17 12:25:24 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised![]()
He was legally obligated to finish out his term in the senate as an independent as per election law in Vermont even if he wanted to join the party formally, the question was always what ticket he'd be running for reelection on in 2018. The answer is seemingly no.
edited 19th Apr '17 12:29:35 PM by CaptainCapsase
Doesn't change the fact that his own campaign manager last April told everyone Sanders would be a Democrat.
Being legally obligated to go back to Independent status is one thing. He could have at least said "I'm officially Independent now, but I'm a Democrat in spirit though I'd like to see some things change."
Sanders has just made it that much harder for himself to get the Democratic Party which he isn't a member of to listen to him.
edited 19th Apr '17 12:33:58 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
Probably, though at least some of his constituents probably wouldn't vote for him in 2018 if he formally joined the party. Not enough to cost him reelection by a long shot since Vermont loves him and is super blue to begin with, but there's a surprising amount of antipathy towards the democratic party these days in the rural northeastern states, as well as in the blue midwestern states.
edited 19th Apr '17 12:36:55 PM by CaptainCapsase
That sounds reasonable to you and me, but to his most ardent supporters, that just translates to "Blah, Blah, Blah politician weasel talk"
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Have you noticed how large the number of independents is in the United States relative to other countries? That's something that's appealing to a good 30% of the electorate at a minimum, and doesn't seem strongly off-putting to the rest.
See: The Democratic Party Is Losing Its Ratings Edge Over The GOP
Polling aggregates suggest both parties are generally disliked by the electorate, which means it's definitely advantageous to remain independent if you're capable of winning your reelection campaigns alone in today's political climate.
edited 19th Apr '17 12:48:13 PM by CaptainCapsase
Not really, quite the opposite actually, it's split around 48 Democrat Leaning:38 Republican leaning based on data from Pew Research
. If the Presidency were decided by simple majority, it would be a no brainer to move the party left in the future to try.
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Both parties are more or less the only game in town, I don't know how that doesn't qualify as "big". The usual reason, as per the Pew article I cited is antipathy towards both of the parties.
edited 19th Apr '17 12:56:06 PM by CaptainCapsase
I don't think it does. He has too much clout now and he's the people's favorite politician atm.
Tom Perez is smart to take advantage of Bernie to make a tour around the country.
Not only that but he's looking better with minorities these days:
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Democrats would be stupid to snub him.
edited 19th Apr '17 12:57:06 PM by MadSkillz
I've made my absolute antipathy towards "independent" unlabelled politicians clear in the past, and to reiterate, I find them to be fair-weather friends at best, Affably Evil traitors at worst. It's not about agreement, it's about being able to support something without having any skin in the game, without having to stake one's reputation on it, one's identity on it. Not "I support a Democrat," but "I AM A DEMOCRAT!" It means Bernie says he's one of them, that he'll carry their banner. Instead, he says he'll help us until he gets the heat, then sell us down the river and say, "Oh, you can trust me though."
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."I guess most shamed Republicans love Sanders then.
You know +41 with independents is awe-inspiring.
edited 19th Apr '17 12:56:39 PM by MadSkillz
They aren't Republicans though, it's split pretty decisively in favor of democrat leaning independents when they're forced to identify with a party, and most independents on both sides are more partisan than party affiliated voters, particularly with the democrat leaning independents.
edited 19th Apr '17 12:58:31 PM by CaptainCapsase

Basically one more major mistake that would cause Georgians to turn of Trump might be able to do it.