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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
"Wasn't that a big part of how the New Deal got through? Minorities being thrown under the bus?"
That was EXPLICITLY the reason the New Deal passed. Southern Democrats weren't on board until FDR was willing to make exceptions for SS for certain occupations (of those occupations 90%+ of them were black and POC. If you were white in those occupations, tough shit.)
New Survey coming this weekend!Well, the article Sanders linked does talk about about Trump voters - demographics which according to the folks of 538 include some Obama voters, which is apparently the reason Hillary lost support in comparison to Barry-O - and Republicans in general, mentioning one alt righter as an example. To read that as seeking support from the alt right itself is a cavalier reading.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanIf you ever consider running for a state legislature, do it in the Peach State...(The AJC title's a bit misleading)
Lobbyists give Georgia lawmakers a $400,000 buffet
Those group expenditures ranged from large, open-invitation buffets at the Georgia Railroad Freight Depot across from the Capitol to dinners hosted at some of Atlanta’s best restaurants, where entire committees were feted by special interests.
While individual gifts from lobbyists to lawmakers are capped at $75 per gift, many such group events have no cost ceiling. That loophole was written in the 2013 ethics reform bill lawmakers passed after years of voters’ clamoring for change.
While lobbyists consider a private meal with an individual lawmaker the most effective, group meals are efficient. As a result, lobbyists spent $4 on group events for every $1 they spent on an individual lawmaker.
The 2013 reforms made an effort to rein in spending on groups, but it’s not clear that is happening. For instance, the law requires the House and Senate ethics committees to approve a list of caucuses eligible to partake in lobbyist-sponsored dinners and limit lobbyists to hosting a single dinner per committee. This year, the Senate failed to approve any and the House committee did not issue its list until six weeks after the session began.
Nonetheless, lobbyists filed expenses for at least 54 such group events without the House committee’s blessing. An Atlanta expert on political law says that unless the per capita cost exceeds $75 per person, such events need no further permission and lobbyists aren’t required to report individually the lawmakers who attended.
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You'll find no argument from me, but about that
, The rise of left-wing, anti-Trump fake news
One example of an incorrect story is the unflattering, digitally-manipulated image, which suggested that US President Donald Trump had diarrhoea during a recent golf outing. Another falsely suggested that President Trump profited from the US missile strikes in Syria
By using specialist software, the company's researchers then followed readers' online behaviour to get an idea of who and where they were.
"On the left if you're consuming fake news you're 34 times more likely than the general population to be a college graduate," says Green.
If you're on the right, he says, you're 18 times more likely than the general population to to be in the top 20 percent of income earners.
And the study revealed another disturbing trend: the more you consume fake news, the more likely you are to vote. It's "fascinating and frightening at the same time," says Green.
One of the reasons for the growth in liberal fake news is financial.
"Those people who generate this kind of fake news don't care about politics. They just care about generating clicks, and so sometimes they generate similar messages for the right and the left," says Filippo Menczer, a professor of Informatics and Computer Science at Indiana University who runs the fake news tracking site Hoaxy.
"Many people on the left right now are feeling overwhelmed and fearful and unsure of what's going to happen next. While they're scrolling through their information feeds at speed on small mobile phones their critical functions are not kicking in, and they're seeing information that makes them feel immediately connected with other people who think similarly to them. And without doing the usual checks that they would do, they're sharing and very quickly passing on similarly false and problematic content that we were seeing before the election."
The democrats are a centrist party and seem fairly committed to staying that way outside of a few states, so that's not a contradiction in the slightest.
As far as Sanders tweet goes, I honestly don't care in the slightest* about working with people like Spencer or Cernovich if it means implementing parts of our agenda where our interests actually align, in this case seemingly a healthcare overhaul. Having principles and standards of decency in politics simply sets you up to be a Doomed Moral Victor in the face of someone prepared to cast them all aside for the sake of winning. It's probably a waste of time on his part because the alt-right is every bit as uncompromising as the more troublesome elements of the left and devout centrists.
* Assuming of course this doesn't come at the price of an unacceptable compromise on the far more numerous areas where our interests are totally incompatible.
edited 15th Apr '17 11:06:39 AM by CaptainCapsase
When those same "left-wing" news sites consistently defend Trump it becomes a contradiction in terms.
As to your second point—so you're okay with legitimizing Spencer's views? Because that's what working with him does. Sure, you sometimes have to work with bad people to accomplish things. But there's a goddamn line and actual Neo-Nazis are well, well over that line. For a guy who has regularly accused "centrists" of wanting to ally with the extreme right in order to marginalize the left you're now advocating almost the exact same thing—only by suggesting an alliance with not the religious right or even neofascistic figures like Trump, but outright Nazis.
(from the article Century Eye posted)
If you're on the right, he says, you're 18 times more likely than the general population to to be in the top 20 percent of income earners.
And the study revealed another disturbing trend: the more you consume fake news, the more likely you are to vote. It's "fascinating and frightening at the same time," says Green.
edited 15th Apr '17 11:19:38 AM by Pseudopartition
I'm not talking about anyone in this thread Capsase. I'm just expressing frustration with this apparent trend that Saint Bernie is automatically correct and Hillary is automatically wrong that some people have. The fact is that a lot of people would probably support Bernie if he started adopting more corporate positions just because it's Bernie doing it. It's an annoying double standard that's rooted in the same hero worship that Trump gets.
edit: There's also people like Gabbard who spout Russian and Syrian apologia significantly worse than anything Hillary did. However, since she said nice things about Saint Bernie she gets a pass too and is being suggested as a candidate for 2020 of all things.
edited 15th Apr '17 11:17:09 AM by Kostya
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It's because they are normally more well-informed and educated. That leads to confidence. And well, the Con in Con Artist stands for "confidence"...
A good number of Bernie Madoff's victims were well-off and well-educated.
The hero worship thing is endemic to populists in general. Which is one of the reasons I am not comfortable with populism.
edited 15th Apr '17 11:17:47 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised

Especially if that guy sees your pet project as a tool to help instigate said race war.
Disgusted, but not surprised