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JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#182876: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:14:50 PM

I feel like you guys over-exaggerate things sometimes. If anything, you should consider Bush far more sinister, because he had actual competent people in his administration. While with Trump it's just him and his circus of clowns.....

It's not just that Trump et al are evil, it's that they're Supid Evil. The Bush administration was stupid, and evil, but we could recover from it (White America has always been stupid lucky like that). Trump's losing popularity, but he could still fuck us over because he needs to compensate for his many, many inadequacies and because he's a spoiled little shit who has no idea how to function in the real world.

I would rather have Pence, because A) he can at least act like an adult to some degree, and B) he's been beaten before. He's a super-conservative governor from a deep red state, and they're already reversing his legislation there because the people who voted for him don't like him.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#182877: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:16:36 PM

[up][up] From what I remember, it's a 10 year old boy who's Kim Jong-un's Nephew.

Might be wrong, though.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#182878: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:18:14 PM

[up]x4 Their country might be blown to smithereens by the end of the month; you'd think they'd be a bit more concerned about this. Or maybe they know something we don't?

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#182879: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:20:35 PM

[up] I'm guessing they are use to North Korea doing this sort of thing in the Spring for years. The one time they did get worried was when North Korea shelled a South Korean island and sunk a warship.

edited 13th Apr '17 8:20:56 PM by Bat178

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#182880: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:21:11 PM

[up][up] Which won't happen anyways.

edited 13th Apr '17 8:23:08 PM by Luigisan98

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#182881: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:22:35 PM

[up][up][up]Or they believe this is more chest beating by the glorious leader before America defuses the situation. That this might be the exact opposite of what the moldy orange does may not have occurred to many people over there who have not payed much attention to the dumpster fire the regime has been.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#182882: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:23:51 PM

South Korea's pretty much constantly had that threat for the past 50 years or so. Especially since after the Korean War ended, the Kim Jong-whatevers have constantly threatened to attack and never followed through. There's only so long you can care about an imminent threat before your burn out and start focusing on other things.

Like, after the 60s, people in the US stopped caring so much about the imminent threat of nuclear war. It was still there, but people had been terrified for over a decade and they couldn't maintain the emotions involved.

It's hard to care about a threat that never seems to come.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#182883: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:25:51 PM

It's like handing a toddler a loaded gun and hoping everything works out. It won't.

I see and understand what you're saying. But look at it from another perspective; who's more dangerous, the toddler with the loaded gun, or the person who actually knows how to use the gun?

Maybe a better question would be, which of the two has the greater potential for harm?

The toddler, at worst, will probably only harm themselves, and maybe a handful of other people.

The trained person with the gun? They could kill dozens.

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#182884: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:28:18 PM

[up] I think a better analogy iflewaway could have used is a monkey with a bazooka.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182885: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:32:59 PM

Or an ignorant clown with a nuke. Which is...shit, that pretty much is the case.

edited 13th Apr '17 8:34:02 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#182886: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:39:37 PM

[up] I think my monkey allegory is better, because Trump is subhuman on intellect.

iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#182887: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:40:46 PM

edited 23rd Apr '17 8:01:23 PM by iflewaway

something
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#182888: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:58:50 PM

I think it's more that he has a really short attention span. He is uncommonly good at scamming people (although his scams tend to be weirdly obvious, I don't really know what that says about him or about the people who fall for them) so he's got to have some level of intelligence. A lot of his really dumb moves look like an idea he had that he put in place before anyone could think about them. The Sharper Image steak thing comes to mind. There is a dumb sort of logic there, "hey, the Sharper Image sells ovens and grills, why not sell steaks there too?" But it doesn't hold up if you think about it for more than three seconds.

Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#182889: Apr 13th 2017 at 9:05:45 PM

I see and understand what you're saying. But look at it from another perspective; who's more dangerous, the toddler with the loaded gun, or the person who actually knows how to use the gun?

...the toddler. By, like, a lot.

An adult who knows how to use a gun may have a higher probability of shooting you if that's their intention, but the toddler is more likely to shoot you regardless of their intention.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#182890: Apr 13th 2017 at 9:16:43 PM

[up][up]Trump is cleaver and cunning, he is good at hurting other people and have sort of raw charm but as you said he have pretty short temper about...pretty much everything.

in short, if you belive in freud trio, trump would be dominate by the id.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Raddishes Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#182891: Apr 13th 2017 at 9:18:49 PM

Seeing how Trump keeps launching missiles to and fro, I feel like this is upping chances for a war just because he wants to.

But he's pretty stupid at doing so, because he keep revealing his plans publicly and- if you think about it-striking areas for no reason at all.

edited 13th Apr '17 9:21:52 PM by Raddishes

iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#182892: Apr 13th 2017 at 9:23:50 PM

edited 23rd Apr '17 8:01:08 PM by iflewaway

something
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#182893: Apr 13th 2017 at 9:44:45 PM

He succeeded because he is a conman, he is clever in the sense he is good at exploring his self image.

Which is all good when you need to con a few business and convince everyone else you're really wealthy because most people won't bother to scrutinize you, now as a president things change because everything Trump does and says will be deconstructed and torn apart by everyone.

Inter arma enim silent leges
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#182894: Apr 13th 2017 at 9:49:30 PM

The Hawaiian representative that switched parties just did an AMA on reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6505xj/im_rep_beth_fukumoto_former_republican_current/

Also here's her intro:

BIO: I was first elected to office in 2012 as a Republican from my hometown, Mililani. I recently resigned my GOP affiliation and am seeking membership in the Democratic Party for reasons I'm sure this AMA audience has already read about. So rather than go into those details, here are some other things about me.

Favorite bands: The Killers & Panic! At the Disco, Choice Netflix binge: Gilmore Girls, Most recent Netflix binge: The Crown, Favorite books: Kafka on the Shore & Great Expectations, Education: I was a level 70 blood elf paladin during my M.A. program at Georgetown where I studied the impacts of MMORP Gs and other pop culture phenomenon on our national narratives.

I'm also pretty interested in public policy and politics.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#182895: Apr 13th 2017 at 9:53:19 PM

I found this answer pretty interesting as to why she ran as a Republican:

Sorry! I think I answered something similar in the scroll, but didn't see this one at the top ... In Hawaii, the Legislature was sooooo dominated by Democrats and it seemed like none of the issues I cared about - cost of living, affordable housing, income inequality, etc. were being addressed. It often seemed like the powerful and rich just kept getting more powerful and rich because that's what happens when you have a supermajority. The Democrats were running the Legislature like an old boys' club behind closed doors, and it was doing a disservice to the public. So, I ran as a Republican. Then as a Republican, I pushed issues like lowering taxes on our lowest income earners (Hawaii taxes the working poor very heavily), a REIT tax that would require wealthy investors who are currently not paying taxes to contribute to our state funds like everyone else, a restructuring of the income tax base so that top income earners paid a little more and the middle and lower income earners paid less, etc. I think those kinds of policies could have always fit well in the Democratic Party even though I pushed them as a Republican. It would probably help to explain that, in my world, Democrats seemed like they were speaking only for special interests and Republicans, the underdogs, had the opportunity to make meaningful changes for middle income and lower income earners. It's almost embarrassing to say now, but I really believed that the Republican Party in Hawaii could be the party of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt - their Republican parties always took on powerful interests and fought for the rights of the underprivileged.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#182896: Apr 13th 2017 at 11:00:48 PM

An adult who knows how to use a gun may have a higher probability of shooting you if that's their intention, but the toddler is more likely to shoot you regardless of their intention.

I mean, I'm talking about greatest potential for harm.

Sure, the toddler is more likely to shoot you, but it'll be an accident, and few people would be harmed.

No matter what way you look at it, there is no way a toddler is more dangerous than someone who actually knows how to use a weapon. They'd do the same damage the toddler would do, and more.

Besides, the analogy of "clown with nuclear codes" is a better comparison here.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182898: Apr 13th 2017 at 11:21:36 PM

[up] Is it me, or is Pence doing a lot of the work that the actual President should be doing?

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#182899: Apr 13th 2017 at 11:22:42 PM

[up] Because he actually has a brain (A vile and twisted one, but a brain nonetheless) and political experience, unlike Trump.

edited 13th Apr '17 11:28:42 PM by Bat178

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182900: Apr 13th 2017 at 11:26:54 PM

I still wouldn't be happy about the asshole who cast the tie-breaker votes to let through Devos and to let states defund Planned Parenthood becoming POTUS if Trump gets impeached...but I probably wouldn't be fearing for the very future of humanity if that happened.

Then again, I'm speaking from a position of privilege since I'm not one of the minorities Pence considers an abomination.

edited 13th Apr '17 11:28:46 PM by M84

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