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#182526: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:41:25 PM

For those curious, a 20 point jump in support projected back onto 2016 would have meant the Dems getting 67 more house seats (for 255 total and a majority of 37), if you also apply it to the Senate you'd see the Dems have 9 more senate seats (for a total of 55) and if applied to the presidency it would mean a victory of 466 electoral votes (with Alabama being the only state with a coast to not go blue).

Now a 20 point jump isn't possible everywhere, but I think it's worthwhile for folks to see what that kind of momentum can do nationally if it's even half realised.

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#182527: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:42:09 PM

The GA special election is next week: April 18th

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#182529: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:51:23 PM

North Korea mostly all talk but by God, that was a stupid move.

edited 11th Apr '17 8:52:50 PM by megaeliz

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#182530: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:54:39 PM

[up][up] They can barely get a nuke out into the Sea of Japan without it blowing up in their faces mid-flight, what makes them think they'll be able to reach all the way out to the US?

edited 11th Apr '17 9:02:24 PM by Bat178

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#182531: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:59:42 PM

They'll be able to hit Alaska once they're done developing the Taepodong 2.

Atm they can hit SK and nearly all of Japan including Tokyo.

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#182532: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:00:16 PM

Back when they were gave the first overview of the upcoming special elections, 538 said that the Democrats could count Kansas 4 as a victory of sorts if they lost by less than 20 points. The fact that they lost by less than 10 points means this was a phenomenal result, and is honestly a better sign of an incoming blue wave than anything that seems likely to happen in Georgia 6.

It's a shame that victory here is merely a symbolic one, when just a little more could've made it a result with real consequences. But it's still a powerful symbol to red state democrats across the country- 'if they won your district by less than 20 points, it can be flipped', is what this says.

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#182533: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:12:12 PM

[up][up] Their missiles are complete junk that have already exploded mere seconds after they leave the silo several times, so even if it got anywhere near the US it would probably get shot down by US missile defenses easily. South Korea and Japan, on the other hand... now you've got me freaking out. You'd think at least Abe would be screaming bloody murder at Trump for doing this...

edited 11th Apr '17 9:57:23 PM by Bat178

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#182534: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:59:32 PM

Look, the GOP promised to bring back the Filibuster for nominees in 2013. It was a lie then and it's a lie now. Democrats are trying to be the adults in the room. The guy saying it was Ed Markey, a freshman junior Senator. The perfect guy to go out and say a promise that won't bind any of the Senate leadership.

You want to win? Stop complaining about every little thing Democrats do.

As for the Kansas special election...this needs to worry the GOP a lot. A 30 + safe district won by single digits? This is not good news for them.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#182535: Apr 11th 2017 at 10:08:36 PM

You want to win? Stop complaining about every little thing Democrats do.

That's not how it works. I will voice my displeasure with my party if they do or say stupid things. I'm no partisan.

I'd abandon the Democrats if presented with a better option.

edited 12th Apr '17 1:49:40 AM by MadSkillz

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#182536: Apr 11th 2017 at 10:10:55 PM

There is no 'better' option. Deal with it.

When you just complain about every little thing, including blatant politicking they have no intention on following through, you do way more harm than good.

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#182537: Apr 11th 2017 at 10:33:14 PM

James Thompson will be running in 2018 following his special election defeat.

[up][up]Then have you actually tried participating in your local Democratic Party yet?

Of course, given what you have to say about almost everything that isn't by George R. R. Martin, maybe the local "death to Amazon store windows" club is more appropriate.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#182538: Apr 11th 2017 at 10:58:12 PM

There is no 'better' option. Deal with it.

Well, yeah. That's why I vote Dem. I'm speaking hypothetically although I've met quite a bit of independents that I prefer to the Dems in local races.

When you just complain about every little thing, including blatant politicking they have no intention on following through, you do way more harm than good.

Here's the thing, I don't think they're being disingenuous. Modern Dems are famous for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

I fully expect them to take some ill-considered "high road".

Then have you actually tried participating in your local Democratic Party yet?

Yep. Probably more than most people seeing as I'm in a Democrat club, have campaigned for my local candidates and am in the process of getting political internship with my local Dem.

Of course, given what you have to say about almost everything that isn't by George R. R. Martin, maybe the local "death to Amazon store windows" club is more appropriate.

The Occupy Wall Street club is more my jam.

edited 11th Apr '17 11:11:38 PM by MadSkillz

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#182539: Apr 11th 2017 at 11:27:14 PM

[up]And have you actually discussed any of your ideas to them? Gotten feedback on whether telling people who aren't white to shut up about their concerns is an excellent idea?

Shay Chan Hodges will be running against Tankie Gabbard in 2018.

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#182540: Apr 12th 2017 at 12:26:16 AM

[up][up] Also, if you want the rest of your fellow Democrats to listen to you, you might also want to avoid making "jokes" about how the South is totally a lost cause and how everything between California and New York is a mistake. We don't want to validate the "coastal elites" crap.

edited 12th Apr '17 12:27:19 AM by M84

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#182541: Apr 12th 2017 at 1:28:25 AM

It does strike me as rather callous to simply tell people that their homes are a lost cause, and that they should drop everything and move to a state that might be miles away. Not to mention impractical.

Seriously, Mad Skillz, how many people here do you think can afford to do that?

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#182542: Apr 12th 2017 at 1:39:51 AM

It's also a tad hypocritical since Mad Skillz lives in California. If they were serious about that suggestion, maybe they ought to move to Florida or something.

edited 12th Apr '17 1:40:08 AM by M84

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#182543: Apr 12th 2017 at 1:47:35 AM

It does strike me as rather callous to simply tell people that their homes are a lost cause, and that they should drop everything and move to a state that might be miles away. Not to mention impractical.

Seriously, Mad Skillz, how many people here do you think can afford to do that?

It's also a tad hypocritical since Mad Skillz lives in California. If they were serious about that suggestion, maybe they ought to move to Florida or something.

Oh come on.

Nowhere did I say to drop your life to move to a swing state.

And I've repeated this numerous times already. Go re-read my other posts.

edited 12th Apr '17 1:50:24 AM by MadSkillz

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182544: Apr 12th 2017 at 1:51:27 AM

[up]

Get over it. It's a suggestion not a command. I'm sorry the Deep South is a hell-hole but it is what it and politically a Democrat is more useful in a swing district/state than in the deep red.

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#182545: Apr 12th 2017 at 1:53:47 AM

[up] And that doesn't contradict what I said.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182546: Apr 12th 2017 at 1:57:55 AM

[up]

@Dingo You should move to a swing state. We need Democrats to bulk up states we can can win.

So when are you moving to Wisconsin?

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#182547: Apr 12th 2017 at 2:01:03 AM

Does it really need to be said? Of course if you don't have the means to leave then stay.

If you're going to move and all things being equal you find two places, one where it's really red and the other purple, then I would recommend moving to the purple.

Although if I were to move, it wouldn't be Wisconsin. It'd be Arizona, Nevada or Texas which would probably be purple by the time I did have the means to move.

edited 12th Apr '17 2:26:01 AM by MadSkillz

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182548: Apr 12th 2017 at 2:04:14 AM

[up] That's the thing: most people can't afford to just pack up, leave everything behind, and move to another state and go through the process of job hunting, find a place of residency, etc. Especially if they aren't single. And that's not even getting into any friends and family they might be leaving.

Your suggestion is wildly impractical and rather condescending.

edited 12th Apr '17 2:05:10 AM by M84

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#182549: Apr 12th 2017 at 2:06:45 AM

I mean, I live in Ohio, so I don't really need to go anywhere.

[up][up] I suppose I did miss those bits, in which case I apologize.

That being said, I do think you could stand to be a bit more...sympathetic? I don't know, it's just a general feeling I was getting.

edited 12th Apr '17 2:08:18 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#182550: Apr 12th 2017 at 2:07:05 AM

[up][up]

Nowhere did I say to drop your life to move to a swing state

Does it really need to be said? Of course if you don't have the means to leave then stay.


That being said, I do think you could stand to be a bit more...sympathetic? I don't know, it's just a general feeling I was getting.

Well it depends on what you mean. I've been misrepresented and attacked all of today on here. It makes you cranky.

edited 12th Apr '17 2:11:17 AM by MadSkillz


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