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CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#182451: Apr 11th 2017 at 5:23:48 PM

SCOTUS overrules and modifies its precedent alot. It just doesn't say its doing that (to make things extra fun for us surely). O'Connor's Casey opinion essentially rewrote Roe, changing the procedural scheme fundamentally, while she wrote that she was firmly sticking to the established case law. It went from absolute bar (dependent on time) to "undue burden" (read: invitation to loopholes). Obergefell can be "distinguished" and watered down as a majority on the court sees fit.

edited 11th Apr '17 5:28:04 PM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#182452: Apr 11th 2017 at 5:27:34 PM

Doesn't North Carolina have a democratic governor who can veto this stuff now? Hm... now I wonder if they're doing what Congress did re: Health care repeals. Submitting bills they know will be vetoed so they take their stance without having to own it. Unless there's enough Republican presence in NC's congress to override a veto.

Also:

You can't trust a Republican's word. I think that's been made clear enough by McConnell and McCain.
What's perhaps most telling to me is that these two can be considered opposite ends of the Republican spectrum.

edited 11th Apr '17 5:29:40 PM by sgamer82

Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#182453: Apr 11th 2017 at 5:31:28 PM

The Alabama Senate voted for the church to create its own police department:

Sure was some nice separation of church and state we used to have.

LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#182454: Apr 11th 2017 at 5:36:18 PM

While apologizing for Hitler gaffe, Spicer says he doesn't want to distract from Trump's attempts "to destabilize the region"

Colbert might have been onto something when he called him tiny. This guy must be at least part-dwarf because, damn he can dig a hole fast.

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#182455: Apr 11th 2017 at 5:39:12 PM

What's the name for that situation where a politician screws up by accidentally telling the truth? I remember it was named for a guy.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#182457: Apr 11th 2017 at 5:46:50 PM

If we ever get the numbers needed to amend the constitution we need to enshrine gay marriage into it so this bullshit stops.

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#182458: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:03:07 PM

[up]On constitutional amendments, I occasionally fantasize about stealing Germany's 1st basic law provision.

On the Article that IFwanderer linked, well, I'd recommend reading it in full, but this excerpt stands out to those asking about the "I can have a beer with him" attitude. (It also says something about authoritarianism.

In their 1987 book, “Right Turn,” the political scientists Joel Rogers and Thomas Ferguson presented public-opinion data demonstrating that Reagan’s crusade against activist government, which was widely understood to be the source of his popularity, was not, in fact, particularly popular. For example, when Reagan was re-elected in 1984, only 35 percent of voters favored significant cuts in social programs to reduce the deficit. Much excellent scholarship, well worth revisiting in the age of Trump, suggests an explanation for Reagan’s subsequent success at cutting back social programs in the face of hostile public opinion: It was business leaders, not the general public, who moved to the right, and they became increasingly aggressive and skilled in manipulating the political process behind the scenes.

But another answer hides in plain sight. The often-cynical negotiation between populist electioneering and plutocratic governance on the right has long been not so much a matter of policy as it has been a matter of show business. The media scholar Tim Raphael, in his 2009 book, “The President Electric: Ronald Reagan and the Politics of Performance,” calls the three-minute commercials that interrupted episodes of The General Electric Theater — starring Reagan and his family in their state-of-the-art Pacific Palisades home, outfitted for them by G.E. — television’s first “reality show.” For the California voters who soon made him governor, the ads created a sense of Reagan as a certain kind of character: the kindly paterfamilias, a trustworthy and nonthreatening guardian of the white middle-class suburban enclave. Years later, the producers of “The Apprentice” carefully crafted a Trump character who was the quintessence of steely resolve and all-knowing mastery. American voters noticed. Linda Lucchese, a Trump convention delegate from Illinois who had never previously been involved in politics, told me that she watched “The Apprentice” and decided that Trump would make a perfect president. “All those celebrities,” she told me: “They showed him respect.”

edited 11th Apr '17 6:06:06 PM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#182460: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:11:21 PM

[up] There is a reason Alabama and Mississippi are sister states and why Mississippi has the lowest IQ and worst health of any state in the country...

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#182461: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:12:59 PM

We should pass similar laws for Muslims. Let's see how they feel about that.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#182463: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:16:20 PM

Anyone wants to make a motion to rename Alabama and Mississippi to Dumbfuckstan?

Inter arma enim silent leges
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#182464: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:16:47 PM

[up][up] And like I said, there is a reason why Mississippi has the lowest IQ and worst health of any state in the country.

edited 11th Apr '17 6:16:54 PM by Bat178

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#182465: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:21:21 PM

This is a song about the American South. There are many of these types of songs, but I always felt they didn't go far enough. This one goes to far.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I7CJovhhVq8

Lehrer is always relevant.

edited 11th Apr '17 6:25:21 PM by megaeliz

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#182466: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:21:44 PM

We should pass similar laws for Muslims. Let's see how they feel about that.

The bill actually says "Church or place of worship." So, amusingly enough, it does let mosques have their own private police.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#182467: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:22:19 PM

[up][up]Not sure if that's a good idea, Trump may think the scary brown people infiltrated the US and nuke those states.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#182468: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:22:24 PM

I mean, if this gets upheld, any religious body (even Muslims, Satanists, and humanists) could also do this according to the law.

Yeah, encouraging the development of sectarian militias is such a great fucking idea....

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#182469: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:24:15 PM

[up]x6 That's already their official title, even in Georgia. Maybe I should switch careers to priest though. What's that? Second estate when the USA starts calling Estates General instead of Congress?

edited 11th Apr '17 6:25:12 PM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#182470: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:26:07 PM

Time to become an edgy paladin for the Satanists.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#182471: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:27:22 PM

I look forward to the day when I can pledge myself to the Holy Order of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.tongue

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#182472: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:28:30 PM

[up]x5 Would the Deep South getting nuked off the face of the Earth really be a bad thing?

edited 11th Apr '17 6:28:51 PM by Bat178

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#182473: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:29:07 PM

[up] Yes: I'm currently there.sad

[down] Why not Death Knight?tongue

edited 11th Apr '17 6:30:34 PM by DingoWalley1

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#182474: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:29:18 PM

And even if you wanted to write off every man, woman, child, and cute fuzzy bunny in the area, turning a giant swatch of land into an unlivable, irradiated hellhole is not a great long-term strategy.

[up][up][up]The traditional term would be "blackguard," but "antipaladin," "paladin of tyranny," and "paladin of slaughter" could all work depending on what kind of image you're going for.

edited 11th Apr '17 6:31:08 PM by rikalous

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#182475: Apr 11th 2017 at 6:30:20 PM

@Dingo You should move to a swing state. We need Democrats to bulk up states we can can win.

The Deep South is lost.

edited 12th Apr '17 1:46:09 AM by MadSkillz


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