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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
@Aceof Spades: These are not security officers-they are full blown police officers answerable first to a church. If that does not fill you with a thrill of horror, I do not know what will.
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Pretty sure that'd violate the Constitution: If this church gets a Private Police force, then every Religious Building would have the right to have one. Giving one church the explicit right to it but not others would definitely violate the 1st Amendment. Also, if the Police Force answers to the Church first and not American Civil Law, then that'd be absolutely terrible.
Hopefully, the new Governor outright veto's this bill, even if it's over-ridden.
edited 11th Apr '17 3:52:19 PM by DingoWalley1
Breaking: North Carolina Files Bill to Make Gay Marriage Illegal Again
Once again, I hate these people with every fiber of my being.
Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.Someone should remind Sessions that the amount of deportations actually went up during Obama's era. But he wouldn't do that because it conflicts with his and Trump's narrative that the Obama era was a crime-ridden, lawless free-for-all.
Also, his choice of language is disturbing.
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x2 All right, North Carolina, have fun losing even MORE money if that somehow passes.
edited 11th Apr '17 4:21:52 PM by speedyboris
Seeking 2020 clout, California looks to jump the primary queue
. There's a proposal to make the California primaries the third ones in the US, just after Iowa and New Hampshire.
I don't like it, it's anti-climatic.
1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
The point clearly seems to get this in the pipeline so it will eventually get to the SCOTUS-while the current makeup will uphold Obergefell Hodges, they are just going to keep trying in the hope that they can get another frothing zealot on the bench. This is not going to stop until we get a constitutional amendment.
Trying to get the Supreme Court to reverse precedent is a long shot: Despite the varying make ups of the court, the US Supreme Court tends to not go back on it's rulings. The only time I can think of, where the Supreme Court reversed one of it's rulings, was Brown v. Board, and even then that took 60+ Years to reverse.
This was a 5-4 ruling where even the ones that held majority had serious reservations-assuming they stick as is, they literally only need to replace one more justice. And the meat of the ruling invites a veritable cornucopia of procedural challenges-because of the the language in the decision, these bigots have an itinerary half a mile long they can work through in order to keep throwing this at the wall until something sticks.
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while the ruling was handed down under the 14th amendment, the due process clause had already been stretched to the breaking point and left the decision on a precarious branch; by falling back on the 'deeply rooted tradition', previous court decisions leave it wide open to interpretation. In short, there is nothing to stop the SCOTUS being forced to review each and every 'deeply held tradition', and giving these fanatics carte blanche to come up with obscure traditions to force review ad infinitum until they get a favorable court or a constitutional amendment comes into play.
And there is a reason this was filed in NC-they can force through these bills as many times as necessary, and the local courts are much more likely to kick it upstairs.
edited 11th Apr '17 5:18:30 PM by ViperMagnum357

Deus Vult!