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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Well, that and when the order went out in the last days of the wars to poison then rivers and go all out, the army disobeyed, because the generals were either smart enough to flee, and those who didn't were smart enough to know that this would lead nowhere at this point.
One also has to know that the bombing of the cities was actually an accident - in that the initial bombing of London was actually the result of the German planes hitting the wrong target but GB couldn't know that so they retaliated by bombing Berlin and after that all bets were off. Bombings beforehand were focussing on military targets only.
That's a bit revisionist - most mainstream historians these days are firmly on the side that it was a deliberate change in doctrine after the drug-addled Austrian corporal realized there was no way he was going to win the Battle of Britain. Trying to terror-bomb the British people into capitulating (coupled with a u-boat campaign to starve them of outside food imports) became codified in German strategy soon after.
Conservatism is generally always pretty morally bankrupt. It's just much, much more overt in, say, the French or American Republicans than it is elsewhere.
re: Spicer. This government is so incompetent they've managed to create some kind of Reverse Godwin's Law. This is Fascist Italy levels of sheer, stubborn, bloody-minded incompetence.
edited 11th Apr '17 12:48:04 PM by math792d
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.It might sound totally reasonable on paper that you'd need a driver's license to vote.
But they're putting in that requirment and then shutting down all the DMVs in a huge area meaning your deeply impoverished black person living in an inner city has to somehow find the time and the money to travel some three hours away two towns over.
That's actually a massive undertaking when you're really poor and working full time and being paid by the hour.
edited 11th Apr '17 12:47:05 PM by LeGarcon
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Hasn't stopped you from regurgitating their talking points uncritically non-stop.
Spicer's apparent Holocaust denial: Congratulations, the White House can now be considered low hanging fruit for Shit Wehraboos Say.
edited 11th Apr '17 12:48:07 PM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotThe court opinion itself will, well, opine on that, but tis complex. In parts of Europe similar laws apply, but those people have I Ds issued to them practically from birth and trivially acquired.
Stateside, the context is different. The ID laws discriminate as applied. Twas calculated that both minorities and much of the poor (those coincidentally overlap alot) would be restricted from voting if the states raised ID requirements at the polls. (You need an ID for alot, but millions also don't drive, don't have ready access to birth certificates, etc.) This combined with procedures for getting the (often expensive) I Ds, have the very much intended effect of suppressing turnout.
edited 11th Apr '17 12:56:24 PM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
Not much more than anything else that's left his mouth ever since he got hired.
I wonder how many people will have their political careers permanently ended due to working for the Trump administration...
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotConsidering that their political careers often start with the Trump administration, I don't really see the issue there. The question is more appropriate for those who had existing careers and rode his coattails out of ideology or opportunism. They will undoubtedly come to regret it, and I could not be sad about it if I tried.
edited 11th Apr '17 12:56:52 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Nah. Conservatism isn't morally bankrupt, but conservative parties have been taken over by morally bankrupt people, and formerly honest conservatives are stuck either defecting to a party that doesn't share their views, or staying and drinking the kool-aid.
There's no place anymore for an Edmund Burke or Robert Taft, and that's not a good thing. Progressives have an unfortunate tendency to sometimes act like the law of gravity doesn't apply (Sanders, I'm looking at you), and they need an opposition both to call them out when they're doing that, and to take the reins when they've gone rectocranial for too long.
Spicer doesn't know how to stop digging himself deeper. He really is the perfect White House spokesman.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Even backwaters in latin america have had universal ID since last century, it makes no sense to me that mass suffrage in the US didn't come with universal ID right off the bat. I am wondering in the historical sense here. What conditions made the mess of a system of today.
I hope to god almighty that's a joke.
edited 11th Apr '17 1:39:09 PM by vandro
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I used to work at a hotel/resort in Niagara Falls, Ontario. You would not believe the number of people who panicked when chip cards came up. Like, you stick the card in the machine instead of swiping. One lady literally screamed at the top of her lungs for 30 seconds straight. No words, just a horror movie scream. These people are so terrified of the "One World Order" that they can't function at all when anything that could be even slightly construed as vaguely resembling the premillennial dispensationalist viewpoint makes them freak out. It was always Americans.
Anyway, I don't know about the rest of Canada, but in Ontario if you don't have a driver's license, you can get an official government ID free by filling out a form at the LCBO (the provincially owned government monopoly liquor stores).
edited 11th Apr '17 1:42:44 PM by Zendervai
"Voter ID" is a shibboleth for keeping the black voters away the polls. Republicans will break the underlying logic of the universe in an attempt to make it seem like a remedy for (negligible, nigh non-existent) voter fraud, but it all boils down to suppressing the vote of people who really want them gone.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."Because that would defeat the entire purpose of demanding ID - to keep the wrong people from voting.

Yes, the Republican governments of many states have intentionally cut photo ID services for inner cities and other places that have concentrations of minorities. At the same time, they pass laws requiring ID to vote. Many of them have been directly observed (in public, no less) saying that the express purpose of these laws is to make it harder for minorities to vote, because they vote Democrat. It's not even a question any more.
Edit: Also note that the lack of ready access to ID does deprive many a poor citizen of those other services you cited as well.
edited 11th Apr '17 12:42:11 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"