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justhelping Since: Dec, 2016
#182301: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:05:14 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/us/san-bernardino-school-shooting.html?_r=0

Awful that stuff like this keeps happening, even in places like California.

edited 11th Apr '17 8:11:03 AM by justhelping

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#182302: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:06:29 AM

EDIT: NVM

edited 11th Apr '17 9:02:49 AM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#182303: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:15:25 AM

Jared Kushner lied about not meeting with Russian officials when filing application forms for top-secret clearance.

No sir, no way they can spin this into an anti-Semitic attack.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#182304: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:15:26 AM

[up][up][up]The earlier one can go on the Global Terrorism thread.

edited 11th Apr '17 8:16:50 AM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#182305: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:37:15 AM

We also have a crime thread.

And as for Kushner, while he is a scumbag, he's a sane scumbag. I'd rather have him in the West Wing as a countercheck to the alt-right wackos and so forth.

edited 11th Apr '17 8:39:10 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182306: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:41:36 AM

[up] Ideally they'll be so busy in-fighting and calling each other cucks and Nazis that they don't get any of their shitty agendas accomplished. Trump alone is bad enough.

edited 11th Apr '17 8:42:17 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#182307: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:43:03 AM

@realDonaldTrump: North Korea is looking for trouble. If China decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem without them! U.S.A.

He has a Facebook Grandma's level of understanding of world affairs.

New Survey coming this weekend!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182308: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:45:56 AM

[up] A lot of Facebook oldies probably voted for him for just that reason.

Who wants to bet this tweet will be used in future Nork anti-USA propaganda?

edited 11th Apr '17 8:47:13 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#182309: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:47:11 AM

"He talks like we do!"

"Yes, well, that's because both you and he are mind-bogglingly ignorant."

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182310: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:49:00 AM

I've never understood the "you can grab a beer with that guy!" rationale for voting.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#182311: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:50:54 AM

Because stupidity is exalted among the Great Unwashed.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#182312: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:52:51 AM

@M85 I think its a form of charisma.

edited 11th Apr '17 8:53:30 AM by MorningStar1337

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#182313: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:57:43 AM

"I want to have a beer with my POTUS."

Get the fuck outta here.

Jerry Brown has the personality of a rock, but I couldn't give less of a fuck, because the man is scarily competent at his job and keeps the left and right wing in the State Assembly in Line.

New Survey coming this weekend!
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#182314: Apr 11th 2017 at 8:59:15 AM

'xcept when it comes to easing up housing regulations.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#182315: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:05:02 AM

"I can grab a beer with that guy," turns rapidly into, "Hold my beer, I'm drivin' this country!"

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#182316: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:09:14 AM

I don't get it either. The president's job isn't to be my friend. It's to run the goddamn country.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182317: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:10:17 AM

I don't really care that much for charisma. It's empathy that is crucial. Along with basic competence.

Disgusted, but not surprised
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#182318: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:10:36 AM

I saw an argument that whenever people say that conservatives vote against their own best interests, it's always their own economic best interests they vote against. What they're voting for is their own cultural best interests, as they see them. Like Christian supremacy for instance.

Not that it helps that much. If anything, it just slows down the inevitable, while increasing the chances that their victories may be Pyrrhic in the long term. Still, they're voting because economics really isn't the most important thing to them.

But maybe it will be when they're starving.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#182319: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:10:49 AM

[up][up][up]Let's be honest, most voters haven't the faintest clue what running the country even entails.

edited 11th Apr '17 9:11:29 AM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182320: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:12:22 AM

[up][up] They say they're worried about the economy, and maybe they even think that's true. It's just that they think the economy is bad because of those other people stealing from them. And by other people they mean "immigrants, especially the brown ones."

edited 11th Apr '17 9:13:38 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#182321: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:14:03 AM

Eric Trump: Ivanka influenced Syria strike decision. Worth noting that apparently the evil dog has the nickname "Abu Ivanka" over there.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182322: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:15:44 AM

[up] Can you imagine the shitstorm if an alternate timeline's news headline stated "Chelsea influenced Syria strike decision"?

edited 12th Apr '17 1:48:00 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#182323: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:17:55 AM

[up][up][up] A lot of people don't even realize. You take away the racism, and this country would look very different within ten years.

Twenty/Twenty-Five?

Practically unrecognizable.

edited 11th Apr '17 9:18:06 AM by TacticalFox88

New Survey coming this weekend!
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#182324: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:23:03 AM

[up] Which future? A best-case scenario future of difference?

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#182325: Apr 11th 2017 at 9:23:58 AM

@Septimus: Well, you've got to please someone with your programs. As Libertarian candidate Harry Browne once said, eliminating a single government program won't usually get any support because individuals don't pay the cost for it, but a particular group will defend the special benefits that it gives them to the death. (He was building an argument for logrolling massive erasure of the federal government with elimination of the income tax, which is more of the usual Libertarian nonsense, but he was right about the problem with eliminating special interest perks and subsidies like housing regulations.)

edited 11th Apr '17 9:24:28 AM by Ramidel


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