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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#182176: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:06:25 AM

Don't just post a video without comment. Give us a summary of what it's about, or at least tell us what you think about it.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#182177: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:14:21 AM

[up][up][up][up]...Time to add the Hell March to our playlists then...?

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#182178: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:16:45 AM

And it was Clinton who was going to fuck things up with Russia, remember? All the arrogant lefties were so certain of that, along with a big chunk of the center-right.

Regretting your attitudes now, folks?

edited 10th Apr '17 9:19:21 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#182179: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:18:42 AM

[up] Considering any Trump supporters on tvtropes who haven't been banned will have learned by now to stay clear of OTC, I'm not sure who exactly you're addressing.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#182180: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:19:42 AM

I'm speaking exactly to the "Hillary is a warmonger" idiots on the left.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182181: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:20:04 AM

[up][up] Fighteer did call out the leftists too.

[up][nja]

edited 10th Apr '17 9:20:18 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#182182: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:20:20 AM

[up][up], [up] I'm fairly sure those people have also long since been banned or left OTC on their own terms.

edited 10th Apr '17 9:20:30 AM by CaptainCapsase

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182183: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:21:14 AM

[up] You do realize Seriesofnumbers tried to post under a different name to dodge a ban just the other day, right?

Disgusted, but not surprised
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#182184: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:22:01 AM

[up] And then promptly was banned again.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#182185: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:22:24 AM

Nah, there are still a fair chunk around who haven't become so obnoxious that we had to ban them. Doesn't matter, though. The point stands. To prevent us from electing a "warmongering, Wall Street-loving, elitist" Democrat as President, we elected... a warmongering, Wall-Street-loving, elitist Republican.

Good job, folks.

And this isn't about Series Of Numbers, nor do we need to discuss people's bans here.

edited 10th Apr '17 9:22:58 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#182186: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:23:55 AM

[up] Sorry about that. Won't happen again.

edited 10th Apr '17 9:24:05 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#182187: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:26:56 AM

Besides, I am sure there are people reading this thread who don't post in it.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#182188: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:35:00 AM

Anyway, this is pretty classic neocon/proto-autocrat strategy, really. Get elected on a platform to redress the plight of the unappreciated white working class, totally fuck things up since you have no real plan or strategy for governing, then start a major war so that everyone gets all patriotic and forgets how incompetent you are. Oh, and use the war as an excuse to curtail civil liberties.

And Trump wants patriotic military marches in major cities, remember?

Based on tradition for this sort of thing, I expect martial law to be declared against anti-war protesters.

edited 10th Apr '17 9:37:48 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Jetyl The Dev Cat from my apartment Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The Dev Cat
#182189: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:51:01 AM

except, the American people are currently, super war weary, and super dissatisfied with the current regime. I don't see going to War with Syria going well for Dumpf's authoritarian plans.

edit: also, unlike most of the wars patriotically motivated, we weren't attack first. I'd expect the popularity of a Syrian war to be equal with late Vietnam, given the current climate.

edited 10th Apr '17 9:54:12 AM by Jetyl

I'm afraid I can't explain myself, sir. Because I am not myself, you see?
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#182190: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:52:48 AM

Not war with Syria... war with Russia. You know, one of the few major nuclear powers in the world? That helped elect Trump because they thought his weakness would be good for their political ambitions, and is now probably regretting it? That Russia?

edited 10th Apr '17 9:53:14 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#182191: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:55:19 AM

[up][up][up] Dude, there wasn't any martial law during the 2003 Iraq War...doubt they'll do it hypothetically against Russia (or China) as well. That might be much of a catalyst for a second civil war because the extreme anti-war people aren't gonna have it. Otherwise, the common people will do everything to deter the Martial Law to make Trump reconsider his choices.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#182192: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:56:36 AM

[up] Oh, I know there wasn't. But this is Trump we're talking about. He's got quite the fancy for some of the less democratic nations around the globe, and wishes he had the power to do the things they did. He's got Putin pinups on his bedroom walls. So I wouldn't put it past him to try, nor for his more deluded supporters to decide that it's okay after all when a Republican's doing it, despite all their protests about the Constitution.

Regardless, war between the U.S. and Russia should terrify every sensible person in the world.

edited 10th Apr '17 9:57:44 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Jetyl The Dev Cat from my apartment Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The Dev Cat
#182193: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:56:38 AM

again, would still highlight all the same problems with a Syrian war. no clear cause to the common man, still super dissatisfied with the current regime, still super war weary already.

the only difference I see is the added fear of nukes, and the unclear battleground, unless that battle ground was Syria.

I'm afraid I can't explain myself, sir. Because I am not myself, you see?
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#182194: Apr 10th 2017 at 9:58:36 AM

[up] Even a limited one to boot.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#182195: Apr 10th 2017 at 10:08:14 AM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#182196: Apr 10th 2017 at 10:20:43 AM

This is 2017, folks. Where idiots rule and nuclear war is back like it's 1962.

If WWIII happens, I hope the first ICBM hits me directly like the Death Star nailing Krennic. I don't think I'm ready to live out the Fallout universe.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
MysteryMan23 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#182197: Apr 10th 2017 at 10:26:16 AM

Erm...that article about Putin's threat seems to have vanished. And I see no other news website talking about this critical-if-true story. Plus, it was from Yahoo News, which isn't quite a reputable source, if I remember correctly. So, I wouldn't take that article too seriously.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#182198: Apr 10th 2017 at 10:26:26 AM

We Will All Go Together When We Go sing along! I'll start:

when you attend a funeral

edited 10th Apr '17 10:27:00 AM by megaeliz

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#182199: Apr 10th 2017 at 10:27:45 AM

Stop with the WWIII speculation guys! Contrary to what Snake thinks, we are not beings capable of self-destruction and never will,

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017

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