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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#182026: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:38:36 AM

Well to quote German News you aren't a real president until you bomb a country in the middle east.

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#182027: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:52:45 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ is a bit better, considering that the top articles include "White House struggles to show how airstrike in Syria fits broader policy" and it did run a critical op-ed yesterday about how bamboozled some pundits are.

How Jeff Sessions wants to bring back the war on drugs. Is there a bad idea this worm is not going to embrace?

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#182028: Apr 9th 2017 at 2:09:19 AM

Build a wall with Mexico and revive the War on Drugs. That'll stop terrorism guaranteed.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
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#182030: Apr 9th 2017 at 3:55:32 AM

The big issue with car stuff aceofspades is that it's kind of a huge poor tax. the omnipresent need for a vehicle doesn't negate the cost of them, and where california's smog exemption doesn't roll forward like most such exemptions (it's got a set cut-off date) that means that entire swathes of cars are incredibly expensive to drive.

This is added on top of onerous regulations in the name of emissions safety, that usually have the exact opposite effect. For most cars you cannot, for example, modify the vehicle to be more fuel efficient and produce less harmful emissions because they're required by law to be factory spec. You must also buy specific catalytic converters for your car that differ by like... 1 number, and have a hundred plus dollar premium markup for the privilege.

Of all the things california could be doing for better air, Cars are probably the least effective method they've gone for.

edited 9th Apr '17 3:55:48 AM by Lanceleoghauni

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Oh, bother.
#182031: Apr 9th 2017 at 4:13:33 AM

Improving public transportation is IMHO a good first step in a Boring, but Practical manner.

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#182032: Apr 9th 2017 at 4:21:24 AM
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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#182033: Apr 9th 2017 at 4:28:27 AM

[up]If the media put forth as much effort in digging up details about how weapon systems work as they did finding the most Michael Bay-like showreel, they could have pointed out that the strike was ineffectual and yet another display of the administration's lack of thoughtfulness at anything that doesn't involve fucking over minorities.

However, it's not like having an expert who knows these things on is going to keep the major cable channels from being described as patsies of the Military Industrial Complex anyway.

California and air pollution: The Californian urban sprawl was based upon the idea that everyone would have their own car. Unsurprisingly, the freeways were swamped as a result. Public transportation is the way to go here, if there is still room on the freeways.

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#182034: Apr 9th 2017 at 4:32:08 AM

@Physical Stamina: It is impossible to love Tom Lehrer too much.

Trump delenda est
Proglottid Since: Mar, 2010
#182035: Apr 9th 2017 at 4:45:18 AM

Honestly, if the US hadn't shown up where they stand clear enough by putting Trump in power, that so many people are now forgetting his monstrous incompetence to go suck his dick after he blasted some of them sand people is taking that message and nailing it with an industrial drill

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#182036: Apr 9th 2017 at 5:45:53 AM

Every time I think that my opinion of my "fellow" citizens can't possibly get any lower, or that I can't possibly hate myself any more for having anything even slightly in common with THOSE...

Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.
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Oh, bother.
#182037: Apr 9th 2017 at 6:01:13 AM

I wonder if this is going to hurt Ossof's chances in the upcoming election.

Eh, Trump will probably do something stupid to remind people just what he is. Moron can't go a whole week without fucking up.

Still, this desperate desire to normalize Trump, to find something to praise about him so that we can pretend we don't have a complete disaster leading us...it's frustrating.

edited 9th Apr '17 6:04:18 AM by M84

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#182038: Apr 9th 2017 at 6:08:10 AM

lets see how long the truce between Kushner and Bannon holds. Cause 'Alpha Male's' don't do compromise.

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#182039: Apr 9th 2017 at 6:13:20 AM

Handel and the GOP field already tried to put Ossoff to the fire, one ultimatum/trap being "So, does the national security expert support Trump or Obama?"
Ossoff replied something like: if the strikes did their job and were launched properly and according to law, he'd support them but he needed more info. (That kind of measured response may not fit these times...) Either here or there

edited 9th Apr '17 6:17:11 AM by CenturyEye

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#182040: Apr 9th 2017 at 6:32:07 AM

You know, if Hillary Clinton were President she probably would have done something very similar in response to the chemical attacks. And yet I'm almost certain the media (especially on the right) would not have been nearly as generous to her as they are to Trump right now.

As for what I think, this whole thing comes across as impulsive and poorly thought out, with a side portion of "too little, too late".

edited 9th Apr '17 6:37:09 AM by Mio

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#182041: Apr 9th 2017 at 6:35:05 AM

[up] Hell, not too long before the actual strike, she reportedly said the USA needed to respond.

Also, if Obama had done this I'm pretty sure the media would have given him hell for it too.

edited 9th Apr '17 6:36:02 AM by M84

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#182042: Apr 9th 2017 at 6:38:48 AM

If Secretary Clinton were president, she probably wouldn't have needed to. Don't forget the diplomatic side, and the weight of the administration's words. Tillerson—top of a gutted state department and constantly out of the loop but still—all but stated the US had no further interests in Syria and would let it play out, not minding if Assad prevailed. Trump says something that contradicts his position every day and looks like a weak leader. Hence, Damascus could've calculated there were no checks against it pulling out everything.

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Oh, bother.
#182043: Apr 9th 2017 at 6:44:47 AM

[up] I've thought for a while that the sarin gas might not have been unleashed if Trump hadn't jumped the gun in saying that the USA would let Assad do his own thing.

edited 9th Apr '17 6:45:01 AM by M84

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#182044: Apr 9th 2017 at 8:03:05 AM

Not strictly related, but discussing broadcast media going nuts for Trump vs print media like the Post staying critical, in particular Krieger's "finding the most Michael Bay-like showreel" comment, is reminding me of the thing that truly made me cynical towards news media in the first place: The day 9/11 happened, news stations had title cards for the attacks up within hours.

edited 9th Apr '17 8:03:52 AM by sgamer82

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#182045: Apr 9th 2017 at 8:11:37 AM

[up]There are people on staff at the major news stations specifically so they can have title cards and appropriate music for the big events within the half-hour.

Nobody wants to be the network that was slow in reporting whatever "big event" of the day is.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#182046: Apr 9th 2017 at 8:20:08 AM

That's not really something to be all that bothered about. As [up] said, they all have departments specifically for that. Yeah, it's kind of weird and doesn't really look that good when you think about it, but it's been like that since the 80s.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#182047: Apr 9th 2017 at 8:31:18 AM

I found few a Vox op-eds critisising Trumps decisions in Syria, calling it "Dangerously Impulsive", and the best thing we can do for refugees is to let them resettle in America.

https://www.vox.com/2015/9/4/9258149/syria-refugee-humanitarian-intervention

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/7/15217492/trump-syria-foreign-policy

edited 9th Apr '17 8:41:18 AM by megaeliz

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#182048: Apr 9th 2017 at 8:35:07 AM

I'm not at all surprised by [up][up][up], but I disagree with [up][up] that it's not something to be bothered by, if only because, at age 18 or so, I was bothered by it. I do find it fundamentally disturbing that should some horrible event with horrific loss of life occurs, there's someone whose job it is to immediately think "I gotta make a snappy graphic for this".

edited 9th Apr '17 8:35:32 AM by sgamer82

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#182049: Apr 9th 2017 at 8:35:10 AM

[up] I think that would be possible if Trump is either bribed or coerced hugely...for secret gains.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#182050: Apr 9th 2017 at 8:48:56 AM

This is an interesting take on how disinformation gets spread, using Infowars as an example. God, how I hate vaccine conspiracies.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/4/6/15160486/alex-jones-vaccines-autism-gates-fungus-health-conspiracy-theories

edited 9th Apr '17 8:49:57 AM by megaeliz


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