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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#181301: Apr 5th 2017 at 11:08:51 PM

[up]Well, we've known that for a while - what's changing is that the propaganda is now more family friendly.

Free college tuition: While this sounds enticing to Sanders' base, this does nothing for the rest of the education system. You know, elementary and high schools that are being starved of the resources needed to give their students the chance to pass their college entrance exams to begin with.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#181302: Apr 5th 2017 at 11:11:06 PM

@sgamer82

It's not really all that surprising that Trump in a weird way made the ACA popular. Everyone who wanted to take potshots at Obama and the other Democrats could just point at the ACA's flaws, real and perceived. They could write up repeal bill after repeal bill to look good and tough for their base, confident that Obama would veto them all so they would never have to face any actual consequences. They were happy as clams being able to blame Obama for it all.

Now? Now they have a President who is perfectly willing to sign a repeal bill. No, he's demanding one. And that means actual consequences for everyone. The GOP would have to own it. After seven years or so of obstruction, they're not used to actually doing things, as Ryan himself admitted.

As for their voter base? Suddenly they're not complaining as much as they were when Obama was in charge since there's a real chance they might lose their insurance. You never appreciate what you have until it's gone...

They hated it at first. They complained about it ad nauseum. They picked at its flaws. They moaned at the rising premiums. And right now many of them literally can't live without it.

[up] Note that Sanders' platform didn't really address the issues with K~12 education that much. HRC's otoh, did address these issues. One of the really consistent traits HRC has held throughout her career is that she really cares about kids and wants them to have a better future. IMHO, "Free college" is an Awesome, but Impractical idea (like a lot of typical populist promises) unless it's also coupled with more Boring, but Practical improvements to K~12 public education. Being able to afford college doesn't help much if your education leaves you woefully unprepared for the coursework.

edited 6th Apr '17 12:04:59 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#181303: Apr 6th 2017 at 12:06:07 AM

One of my main problems with the far left nowadays, it's basically a race of who can promise the most free shit, without a competent plan to back it up.

New Survey coming this weekend!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#181304: Apr 6th 2017 at 12:07:02 AM

[up] Which as you might note is pretty typical of populists in general. Which is a major reason I see someone using populist strategy as a red flag.

Disgusted, but not surprised
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#181305: Apr 6th 2017 at 1:55:44 AM

[up][up][up] We had to overhaul the whole thing here and even create special high schools geared directly towards a particular university career in order to make our education system work.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#181306: Apr 6th 2017 at 2:31:05 AM

[up] And Denmark isn't nearly as large as the USA. I shudder to think just how long, how expensive, and how much needs to be done to make it work in a country this massive.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#181307: Apr 6th 2017 at 2:35:56 AM

I must say...It's very nice in seeing that most people in this thread are on the Autistic spectrum (me included.). Kinda shows that regardless of condition, the best people may come from the unexpected like us.

I'm kinda wondering how people with the condition will fare in the presidency though.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#181308: Apr 6th 2017 at 2:37:58 AM

[up]I wouldn't be surprised if some of our previous Presidents were somewhere on the spectrum. But we'll never know.

edited 6th Apr '17 2:40:53 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#181309: Apr 6th 2017 at 2:40:58 AM

With the current budget-to-GDP ratio the United States is dealing with, I dare say it's an impossible feat. note 

Running a welfare state is expensive.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#181310: Apr 6th 2017 at 3:06:45 AM

The thing is that I'm doing a speech tomorrow on behalf on all Autistic people around the world including the ones from TV Tropes (Who didn't and will never ruin my life BTW). I've been thinking if I may add a subtle and stealthy jab against Trump tho...

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#181311: Apr 6th 2017 at 3:08:53 AM

[up] If you want, maybe bring up that he has spouted that "anti-vaxxer" bullshit in the past. Maybe look it up to get the details right.

edited 6th Apr '17 3:10:30 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#181313: Apr 6th 2017 at 3:51:39 AM

[up] I'll definitively try a jab.

Also, yeah, but there's always hope for Humanity,always will be.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#181314: Apr 6th 2017 at 3:57:50 AM

Well hope for the Republican Party at least. :)

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#181315: Apr 6th 2017 at 4:06:10 AM

[up][up][up]The personnel protection department of the Secret Service really love hiring prostitutes, it seems.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#181316: Apr 6th 2017 at 4:09:15 AM

Greatest news ever. Hopefully he does.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/327534-bannon-threatened-to-quit-if-removed-from-national-security-council?amp

Also Trump was apparently mad about people calling him President Bannon.

edited 6th Apr '17 4:11:43 AM by megaeliz

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#181317: Apr 6th 2017 at 4:28:43 AM

[up]I was just going to share that...

I wonder if we can pull it off with other swamp-dwellers.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#181318: Apr 6th 2017 at 4:39:50 AM

New Keith Oblermann video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AC5QyLFS9rk

edited 6th Apr '17 4:40:03 AM by megaeliz

Proglottid Since: Mar, 2010
#181319: Apr 6th 2017 at 4:42:04 AM

[up][up][up] You know what to do then, keep that hashtag on fire!

justhelping Since: Dec, 2016
#181320: Apr 6th 2017 at 5:48:06 AM

[up]x10 How many of you are actually autistic?

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#181322: Apr 6th 2017 at 6:07:33 AM

[up][up]Are we engaging in a game of "not truly on the spectrum" now? Seriously?

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Fighteer MOD Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#181323: Apr 6th 2017 at 6:08:20 AM

Folks, the "how spectrum are you" talk goes in Yack Fest, not here.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#181324: Apr 6th 2017 at 6:28:25 AM

This is an autism thread.
Anyway...Update from the Atlanta Front Ossoff pulls in record donations for Georgia special election

Democrat Jon Ossoff has raised more than $8.3 million for his campaign to represent suburban Atlanta in Congress, the most significant sign yet that the political newcomer has become a national symbol of the resistance to President Donald Trump.

Ossoff’s financial disclosure, to be released Thursday, shows he has $2.1 million on hand for the final stretch of the campaign. His contributions came from across the nation, including more than $1 million raised by the liberal advocacy site the Daily Kos. Sure to raise eyebrows in Georgia, however, is the campaign’s revelation that 95 percent of all of Ossoff’s donors are from out of state.

The fundraising haul is an astounding figure for a 30-year-old former congressional aide virtually unheard of in Georgia political circles before he jumped in the race to represent the state’s 6th District.

Meanwhile, former Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel’s campaign announced it has raised $463,000 so far and has more than $183,000 in the bank with roughly two weeks until Election Day. Handel’s campaign said nearly 90 percent of its reported 831 individual donors are from Georgia. (A detailed list has yet to be made available on the Federal Election Commission’s website.)

Former state Sen. Judson Hill previously disclosed that he’s raised $473,000 and that he had $113,000 on hand.

Hill has actually already filed his pre-election report with the Federal Election Commission. That filing shows his former colleagues in the General Assembly contributed more than $17,000 to his campaign. That includes money from 18 members of the Senate. State-level lobbyists kicked in an additional $3,800.

Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich contributed $500.

But the real news in Hill’s report is that special-interest groups, specifically political action committees, contributed more than $47,000. While some of those were Georgia PA Cs, many are Washington-based.

Ossoff’s massive haul will almost certainly overshadow all other candidates, and not just in Georgia. His fundraising total is the most for a congressional candidate since Democrat Randy Perkins put nearly $9 million of his own money into in his bid for Florida’s 18th District in 2016, according to the campaign-finance website Open Secrets.org.

It’s worth noting that Perkins lost that race to Republican Brian Mast, who raised just under $3 million.

Ossoff’s “Make Trump Furious” campaign has helped him emerge as the unquestioned leader in the 18-candidate field to represent a traditionally Republican stronghold. He’s captured celebrity endorsements, rattled Republican heavyweights and enlisted thousands of volunteers. He openly talks about winning the race outright in April to avoid a June 20 runoff.

“The campaign’s goal is not to get into a runoff, though we’ll be ready to fight a runoff if necessary,” Ossoff said at a recent campaign stop. “The campaign’s goal is to win this election outright on April 18.”

The district — which spans from east Cobb County to north De Kalb County — has been in GOP hands since the 1970s, and losing it would be an epic embarrassment for Republicans and Trump’s new administration. Tom Price, who vacated the congressional seat to become Trump’s health secretary, routinely scored double-digit victories since first winning the seat in 2004. But the president barely carried the district in November, giving hope to Democrats eager to turn this race — considered the most competitive congressional race in the nation since Trump’s victory — into an early test of his presidency.

For now, Ossoff has far more financial firepower than his GOP rivals, and he has enough to keep his ad blitz on the airwaves into the summer.

Former Johns Creek Councilman Bob Gray and ex-state Sen. Dan Moody — both millionaire executives — were also expected to dip into their personal fortunes to foot some of their campaign bills.

But they are largely focused on competing with other Republicans — and not Ossoff — for what seems likely to be a sole spot in the runoff.

National Republican groups have rushed to try to fill that void, worried that the Democrat could hand them an early black eye.

The National Republican Congressional Committee last week launched an attack ad depicting Ossoff as a stooge of U.S. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi who will “try and stop our Republican majority that’s getting things done.”

That’s on top of a $2.2 million blitz by the Congressional Leadership Fund, which has at turns cast Ossoff as an inexperienced party boy with footage of him dressed as Han Solo from his Georgetown University days or a resume-inflater who improperly boasts about his experience as an adviser to Democratic U.S. Rep. Hank Johnson of Lithonia. Ossoff and his campaign have dismissed claims that he overstated his background as an aide who helped craft national security policy, and he released a timeline showing he also had five months of “top secret” clearance.

An overwhelming number of Ossoff’s contributors live far outside the 6th District but were drawn to his campaign. His contributions came from nearly 200,000 donors who gave an an average of $42.52.

Alan Berns of Boston called himself a “proud citizen of an obviously blue and very progressive state” who wanted to channel his money to candidates who needed it. He said he opposes both Trump and Price — which he said gave him more reason to donate to Ossoff.

“Ultimately, his victory would send an important message to our new president that there are certain values at our core that he should not mess with,” said Berns, a 70-year-old retiree.

Georgia Republicans are preparing to hunker down. Former U.S. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, a potential GOP contender for governor, said an Ossoff victory could send a discomfiting signal to Republicans in Georgia and otherwise red territory.

“This guy gets in the runoff and every Democrat in America — if not the world — is going to send him money,” Westmoreland said on GPB’s “Political Rewind.” “They’re going to use that as a launching pad … to say, ‘See, he can do it.’ ”

Welp, reminder. Federal races are national affairs. Involve yourselves anyway you can. (Broke persons like moi, can call).

edited 6th Apr '17 6:31:26 AM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#181325: Apr 6th 2017 at 6:57:33 AM

Some breaking news from Reuters. No articles, just stuff off their breaking news feed.

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Live_US_Politics/mobile&Theme=39&Whitelabel=True

BREAKING: House Intelligence Chairman Nunes says he will temporarily step down from panel's Russia investigation

MORE: Nunes says stepping down from Russia probe due to 'entirely false' accusations filed against him with office of Congressional ethics. Nunes says he wants to speak with ethics office as soon as possible to 'expedite the dismissal of these false claims.'

MORE: House Speaker Ryan says supports Nunes' decision to step aside from Russia probe.

Ryan says he is confident probe's new temporary head, Rep. Conaway, will conduct professional investigation.


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