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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#180876: Apr 4th 2017 at 5:25:55 AM

[up]x5 Good. I've been seeing disturbing parallels to 1984 in the last few years, but especially since Trump was elected.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#180877: Apr 4th 2017 at 6:39:06 AM

[New Republic] The founder of Blackwater is now part of the Trump-Russia story because of course he is. And a probably more reliable confirmation by The Washington Post.

EDIT: Just remembered, Yesterday, when I mentioned Bannon's Egypt connenctions I joked next scandal of someone in the Trump Admin collaborating with a foreign power would be related to Devos and what do you know? This guy's Devos' brother. I'm guessing next in line is Mnuchin, just for the lulz.

edited 4th Apr '17 6:44:35 AM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#180879: Apr 4th 2017 at 6:41:12 AM

Moved up [up]

edited 4th Apr '17 7:08:43 AM by megaeliz

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#180880: Apr 4th 2017 at 6:53:07 AM

GOP Offensive in the 6th

WASHINGTON — Polling recently commissioned by a Paul Ryan-aligned super PAC indicates that 6th District voters really dislike Nancy Pelosi. So the D.C.-based Congressional Leadership Fund is doubling down on attack ads linking Democratic front-runner Jon Ossoff to the House minority leader in Georgia’s special election to replace health secretary Tom Price.

The group has been particularly active in the north Atlanta suburbs as of late, sinking $2.2 million into radio and television ads against Ossoff. Now it’s out with a new digital spot this morning deeming the 30-year-old a “rubber stamp” for Pelosi’s “extreme agenda” while also taking a new swipe at the Democrat’s resume.

“Bigger government, more spending, higher taxes, a weaker military,” the ad states. “Liberal Jon Ossoff. He’s with Pelosi, not us.”

A recent Leadership Fund survey estimated that Pelosi held a net favorability rating of negative 40 percent in the Georgia 6th. The group is banking that those numbers will hold when voters hit the polls on April 18, at least enough so to deny Ossoff the 50 percent of the vote needed to draw him into a two-month runoff.

in a recent memo obtained by Insider, the super PAC said its offensive is beginning to change the political dynamics in the final weeks of the race.

The group cites a self-commissioned survey that found that Ossoff’s standing in the polls has remained more or less unchanged in the latter half of March, from 37 percent mid-month to 36 percent last week. They also highlight that more voters now see the Democrat in an unfavorable light than before they ramped up their advertising.

Writes Corry Bliss, the group’s executive director:

  • “In just one week, Ossoff has stalled on the ballot, and most importantly, he is now underwater with more voters viewing him unfavorably (38% favorable, 47% unfavorable). This is a large swing from last week when he was +17 (43% favorable, 26% unfavorable).”

The Congressional Leadership Fund, or CLF, is not the only outside GOP group to use Pelosi, the House Democratic Leader, to nationalize the 6th District race, which is seen as an early referendum on Donald Trump’s young presidency. The National Republican Congressional Committee warned in a recent ad that “Nancy Pelosi and liberal politicians are flooding into Georgia to try and stop our Republican majority that’s getting things done.”

One interesting nugget from the survey is that a plurality of respondents, 44 percent to 37 percent, think Ossoff “will hold Donald Trump accountable,” one of the Democrat’s biggest campaign pledges.

A Democratic victory in the reliably Republican 6th District would be a major upset — the seat has been in GOP hands since the 1970s.

Ossoff... has led the crowded, 18-person field with roughly 40 percent in recent polls.

(Excerpt merged from two related stories)

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#180881: Apr 4th 2017 at 6:57:41 AM

@I Fwanderer, I don't remember signing up for Tom Clancy's Wild Ride but let me off and give me my money back.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#180882: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:00:16 AM

Dude, megaelz, you don't need to keep double posting. Just edit your previous posts.

[up][up]Considering that he's holding that much in a jungle primary, I think he might well be able to win a run off election. Did anyone even think it wasn't going to end up in a run off anyway? Let's hope Ossoff is at least mentally prepared for it.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#180883: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:01:38 AM

Sorry realized it after I did, not sure how to delete.

edited 4th Apr '17 7:02:24 AM by megaeliz

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#180884: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:09:42 AM

Yo. If Ossoff wins this special election, GOP is pretty much going to be in panic mode.

Expect them to do a lot of 180s on Trump in the weeks after.

New Survey coming this weekend!
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#180885: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:12:54 AM

[up][up]You basically can't delete posts on this site.

[up]I think you may be overestimating the importance of one win. However, it will show them that they can't really trust that they're safe. But only if Ossof does in fact win.

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#180886: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:15:47 AM

Well, the GOP field is split between about 11 candidates (more like 10 since one of the tea partiers had her staff resign en masse). The Dem field has about 4 with three doing little more than spoiling Ossoff. (He might be over 50% if they dropped out.)
The 6th isn't Atlanta, it's Marietta and the Northern Suburbs—a very different place. There's always the likelihood the suburban voters will rally around the GOP when its mano a mano. Less risky to hit a knock out blow in the first place.

Edit: Done and done

edited 4th Apr '17 7:29:09 AM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#180887: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:18:38 AM

[up]Nitpick, but it's mano y mano, not mono e mono.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#180888: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:19:57 AM

I'm now imagine a fight between two candidates with kissing disease.

Have fun with that...

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#180889: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:20:32 AM

New GOP Health Proposal Would Undermine Essential Benefits, Pre-existing Conditions

"States would have the option to jettison two major parts of the Affordable Care Act’s insurance regulations. They could decide to opt out of provisions that require insurers to cover a standard, minimum package of benefits, known as the essential health benefits. And they could decide to do away with a rule that requires insurance companies to charge the same price to everyone who is the same age, a provision called community rating."

"Technically, the deal would still prevent insurers from denying coverage to people with a history of illness. But without community rating, health plans would be free to charge those patients as much as they wanted."

So it's worse than Trump Doesn'tCare 1 because of course it is.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#180890: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:21:39 AM

I thought it was mano a mano: "man to man". mano y mano means "man and man". I suspect linguistic drift, since most English users of the phrase don't know Spanish and therefore cannot identify the mistranslation.

[up] Hey, maybe if they keep throwing the same bad ideas at the wall, some of them will stick enough to pass a vote?

edited 4th Apr '17 7:23:46 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#180891: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:26:33 AM

[up]Yes. "Mano a mano", but it means hand, not man.

edited 4th Apr '17 7:26:52 AM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#180892: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:27:47 AM

[up][up][up]Huh, impressive. He won't let one humiliating failure stop him from screwing over millions of people. That's the Spirit we need in a president!

Might still have a hard time passing this one too though...Is Trump now part of the establishment?

One thing the recent collapse of healthcare reform efforts in the House of Representatives has revealed is just how quickly attitudes and alliances can shift in Washington, DC.

Last year Mr Trump and members of the House Freedom Caucus, a collection of 30 or so libertarian-leaning fiscal conservatives in Congress, were singing from the same anti-government hymnal.

Now, however, Mr Trump is the government - and he teamed up with congressional leadership to back a healthcare bill that conservative hard-liners believe didn't go far enough in undoing the 2009 Democratic-designed system.

The effort's failure set off back-and-forth sniping between Mr Trump and the Freedom Caucus that morphed into a classic insider-outsider faceoff, with Mr Trump cast as the new voice of the powers that be.

Congressman Justin Amash said the White House has become part of the hated status quo - the "Trumpstablishment", he called it in a Saturday tweet.

That line drew the ire of Mr Trump's director of social media, Dan Scavino Jr, who tweeted that Mr Amash was a "big liability" and encouraged Michigan voters to unseat him in next year's Republican primary. (The tweet has since been criticised as a possible violation of a federal law preventing executive branch officials from attempting to influence election campaigns.)

Already there are signs that conservative true-believers - some of whom were never fully sold on Mr Trump to begin with - are questioning Mr Trump's anti-establishment bona fides.

"That's the dirty little secret," writes conservative columnist Ben Shapiro. "Trump isn't anti-establishment; he's pro-establishment so long as he's the establishment."

Even conservative radio host Laura Ingraham, an early Trump supporter, is having some doubts.

In a Rasmussen survey, the number of Americans who "strongly approve" of the president has dropped from 44% at shortly after his inauguration to 28% today. While the Republican base is largely sticking with Mr Trump so far, they may be starting to have some doubts.

edited 4th Apr '17 7:28:36 AM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#180893: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:28:08 AM

hand to hand...I guess mano a mano might be more idiomatically translated as blow for blow.

edited 4th Apr '17 7:33:07 AM by vandro

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#180894: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:29:30 AM

And that goes to show that "establishment" is nothing more than a slur that you stick to people you think are more influential than you...

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#180895: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:31:05 AM

Goddammit, I knew it meant "hand to hand", but for some reason I brain farted. Spanish classes, ye were too long ago. Just goes to show how cognates screw you up.

[up] Yes, that's the other thing. Any time someone rails against "the establishment", you can be fairly sure what they mean is "people who are in the system, while I am outside it". Of course, this can be relative. Those Freedom Caucus members are "inside the system" — they are elected to Congress, after all. They have staffs, entertain lobbyists, adhere to procedures (well, mostly). They are politicians whether they like it or not.

edited 4th Apr '17 7:34:39 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#180896: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:41:57 AM

Trump supporters in Texas are coming to the realization that their vote for the president may force some of them out of their homes for less than they are worth, with others finding out that — if they stay — they’ll be living in Mexico if his wall is built.

As part of a CNN special report on the impact the wall between the U.S. and Mexico will have on border dwellers in the state that went overwhelmingly for President Donald Trump, the network found there is already an extensive history of government lawsuits filed to take property from homeowners. With Trump’s wall planned for the entire border, some of his supporters are now saying they will fight his administration in the courts.

According to one family who had their farm cut in half — part of it in the U.S., part of it in Mexico — they are still stunned that government was able to take their property 10 years ago.

“I was very angry, I just kept saying, how can they do that? How is that possible in the United States that they can do this?” D’Ann Loop of Brownsville recalled. “They put up a fence in front of our land and then keep us in here — lock us in. I didn’t understand. I was very — I was floored and flabbergasted.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/if-i-have-to-get-a-lawyer-i-will-trump-voter-upset-his-border-wall-will-put-her-house-on-mexico-side/

LMAO

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edited 4th Apr '17 7:42:21 AM by TacticalFox88

New Survey coming this weekend!
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#180897: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:44:46 AM

52-43% is "overwhelming"?

Also wondering how they'll protect property between the wall and the Rio Grande. The border runs along the bed of the Rio Grande.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#180899: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:47:05 AM

Madskillz...don't cite that stupid video of "Oh, Bernie Sanders won over Trump voters by talking to them!" Not everything can be solved by a decent chat about healthcare. One stupid moment of "But he got some cheers" does not mean they'll vote for him in a general election.

Seriously, this notion you can subtract things like race and environmentalism from West Virginia...

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#180900: Apr 4th 2017 at 7:54:29 AM

McConnell to file cloture on Gorsuch nomination due to filibuster.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."

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