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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
x4 Again to them "socialism" is a scary word.
They don't like abortions
Despite taking welfare, they want it gone because they think minorities get more of it
For all their whining that they're being stepped on, they sure are silent about the big banks big banking.
The Dems still have working class of color. Why weren't they fooled by Trump's snake oil persona?
Hillary won more voters who viewed the economy as the most important issue.
She also won more voters who knew that the system is rigged towards the rich.
edited 3rd Apr '17 6:39:23 PM by NoName999
(Rapidly changes subject to break up Echo Chamber.)
So anyone want to talk about how Trump is panicking about "Fake News, Russia, Russia, Russia" on twitter. except for a few tweets about "Love and Strength of the Republican Party"???, every tweet actually written by Trump, has been trying to deflect about Fake Trump/Russia story. Are the Lies are catching up to him?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
edited 3rd Apr '17 6:44:50 PM by megaeliz
You will not win over the WWC, without throwing minorities under the bus, because the WWC has made it abundantly clear for FORTY YEARS, that they will under no circumstance vote lockstep with people of color, and will gladly set themselves on fire, so long as white supremacy is maintained.
New Survey coming this weekend!![]()
When we're talking about Sanders, you go on about how its the left's fault that Clinton lost the election (in different and typically less blunt words). That would imply that the best path forwards would be to shift rhetoric to capture those missing democratic voters, which means going left. Strategic use of hypocrisy is an effective method of political debate, if a rather underhanded one.
edited 3rd Apr '17 6:57:11 PM by CaptainCapsase
I'm saying that he can't shut up about it.
.@Fox News from multiple sources: "There was electronic surveillance of Trump, and people close to Trump. This is unprecedented." @FBI
The real story turns out to be SURVEILLANCE and LEAKING! Find the leakers.
Such amazing reporting on unmasking and the crooked scheme against us by @foxandfriends. "Spied on before nomination." The real story. ..not associated with Russia. Trump team spied on before he was nominated." If this is true, does not get much bigger. Would be sad for U.S.
When will Sleepy Eyes Chuck Todd and @NBC News start talking about the Obama SURVEILLANCE SCANDAL and stop with the Fake Trump/Russia story? It is the same Fake News Media that said there is "no path to victory for Trump" that is now pushing the phony Russia story. A total scam!
-the Real Donald Trump
Combine this with the way he walked out of the room without signing when he was asked about Trump/Russia, when he was going to sign an excutive order, and it seems obvious he's hiding something.
edited 3rd Apr '17 6:58:33 PM by megaeliz
I'm not blaming the left. I'm just baffled how some on the left think we can't Rust Belt voters by moving further to the left.
Personally, I think the Democrats should bother energizing their actually loyal demographics into getting their asses to fucking vote
A Republican president gets four years to get stuff done.
A Democrat one only gets two.
That's pretty much standard Trump: if at first you don't succeed move the goalposts until you find something vaguely credible sounding, even if it has very little to do with the initial claim.
Union members were one of the major sources of lost votes for democrats in the rust belt, which would imply that yes, at least some of the working class voters in the rust belt would be open to more ambitious economic platforms, considering organized labor is one of the cornerstones of the political left when it comes to economic policy.
edited 3rd Apr '17 7:05:25 PM by CaptainCapsase
Also anyone want to help me figure out what this means
Anybody (especially Fake News media) who thinks that Repeal & Replace of Obama Care is dead does not know the love and strength in R Party!
Love and strength???
edited 3rd Apr '17 7:01:11 PM by megaeliz
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Considering Trump was viciously attacking the Tea Party recently, that was probably a Staffer tweeting for him. I don't think Trump himself would ever use the words "love" and "strength" unless he was referring to himself.
I will admit, though, that the Inner Party vibes from that are absolutely terrifying.
edited 3rd Apr '17 7:04:35 PM by DingoWalley1
Trump and whoever else tweets for him just likes to spout out positive sounding slogans. Which has worked for him so far.
At least some of his tweets are bound to just be bloviating due to just how many he makes. This doesn't seem like one we should give much care over.
edited 3rd Apr '17 7:22:21 PM by AceofSpades
So what I'm to understand is that race relations in the United States are exactly the same as they were in the 1930s? Bullshit. Despite Trump, things are vastly better now then they were back then, both in terms of the attitudes of the population and in terms of the conditions of minority populations. The fact that lynchings are no longer a commonplace occurrence is one manifestation of how things have changed.
The civil rights movement leading to the collapse of social democracy in America also wasn't a forgone conclusion.
edited 3rd Apr '17 7:53:18 PM by CaptainCapsase
I don't think that anyone is claiming that. More that white voters didn't start leaving the Democrats because they stopped caring about populism. Rather, they started leaving the Democrats when the party became pro-Civil Rights. And there's definitely a pattern of white voters disapproving of policies when those policies benefit minorities, especially if they are sold on the idea that those policies only benefit minorities, even if they use them themselves.
And while race relations are legitimately a lot better, you still see versions of the same things today. So instead of poll taxes and literacy tests there's racial gerrymandering and voter ID laws. Not to mention all of the police shootings of unarmed people from minority groups (which granted, are probably more covered rather than more prevalent). Speaking of which, "coincidentally", when Obama made statements addressing those and other inequitable actions by police, his support among white voters dropped and never recovered.
So, I guess as an overall thought, what's more than a little saddening and aggravating is the fact that a lot of why Sanders can promote social welfare policies with more success than Obama is because he's white and so white voters will trust him that those policies will help them. Whereas they never really trusted Obama.
Edit- In fact I think a lot of the reason why Democrats have been gradualists is because of all of the hostility of white voters toward social welfare programs, because those programs were identified as helping minorities.
edited 3rd Apr '17 8:09:07 PM by Hodor2

edited 3rd Apr '17 6:38:35 PM by CaptainCapsase