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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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And how do you plan on getting people to vote for you? Or do you plan to win just enough for people to start throwing knives at your campaign poster for splitting the votes?
edited 3rd Apr '17 2:40:41 PM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotBarney Frank warned us. I mean he straight up was a prophet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0ncUK5VI0&t=156s
Easy to do when your entire track record consists of bloviating about how much better things would be if people only listened to you, while getting nothing done.
I sincerely hope he's not. Running things by a guy who has never accomplished anything legislatively would be moronic.
Is Clinton still talking about what a dick Sanders is? Oh right, she never talked about what a dick Sanders is. When she starts bashing him or Independents you will have a point about hypocrisy.
Until he actually does that, he can shut the Hell up. And frankly I will believe it when I see it.
Addressing the anxieties of racists could be done in ways that benefit everyone, inevitably including racists, but also the people hated by racists, whether the racists like it or not. And they may not have a choice, and even may not care, once they realize they're not being left out, knocking a major plank out from under them and pushing back against "white genocide" and other such nonsense.
There was a chorus of hostility from Trump supporters toward immigrants who don't assimilate, specifically by not speaking English. A number of them complained about being denied food stamps when they were in need, while also rejecting the notion that they benefited from white privilege.
"It was funny, the backlash that we got over [allowing cash withdrawals on] EBT cards," said a Trump supporter named William. "Here I'm struggling to get my kid hotdogs and you're buying a porterhouse, and I'm being told that I'm wrong or I'm racist or I'm not the—I'm privileged, and that's what's wrong."
"It's almost like you wonder how are they working the system that you're not," Chris, another study participant, responded. A third, Matt, responded by suggesting perhaps "we're checking the wrong box when we're filling out paperwork," meaning they'd be provided with social services they desperately need if they weren't white.
edited 3rd Apr '17 2:48:25 PM by Eschaton
The thing is, large welfare states are in no way an antidote or anti-racist vaccine.
My evidence: Great Britain, Denmark (pls don't nuke us), Sweden, France.
You'll just start having people fighting over who qualifies for welfare and who doesn't, and empower the right to start selectively picking and choosing who's 'worthy' of receiving welfare and who isn't and playing that racist fiddle instead.
edited 3rd Apr '17 2:48:53 PM by math792d
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.![]()
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Well, that and voting in ways that keep gun rights constituents (at first) and Lockheed Martin happy.
edited 3rd Apr '17 2:49:37 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedTrue. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Bloviating about how the Dems have lost the WWC vote by not focusing on economic justice and fucking around with 'identity politics' sure as fucking sure is.
edited 3rd Apr '17 2:52:49 PM by math792d
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.Well neither of these are true.
Bernie's trying to cloak himself in FDR's mantle but that's just a disguise. Overall, he's a socialist trying to stop the rightward pendulum swing and swing the country left which is proving somewhat successful.
Republicans are trying to create a corporate dystopia. It's only the base that wants 50's America back.
Yeah, I can tell you . . . race isn't the main factor in how fucked up the welfare system is. I'm a cashier. I've seen the kinds of things white people get on welfare too. A lot of it is junk food. Probably because they work and can't find the time to cook.
The whole system needs a revamp but we can't do it all at once, and certainly not until we thoroughly purge the GOP taint from our government.
That's what I'm getting from him, and honestly it's the same kind of creeping bullshit that's started infesting the Soc Dems here - just promise solutions with no reasonable expectation of ever fulfilling them, blow a few dogwhistles about the working-class, run a foreign policy that's undiscernable from the one the nationalists are running and pretend it's all about respecting the wishes of the people.
The fucker even tried to lay Brexit at the feet of the 'economic justice' argument. That can fuck right off.
edited 3rd Apr '17 3:01:57 PM by math792d
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.I mean, I fully concede that there might be a linguistic difference there (part of the perceived difference between various political situations in very different countries are driven by different cultures and, by extension, different dogwhistle language), but that's how it came across to me, being from a country where that shit is routine at this point.
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.Criticizing Clinton for starting wars mainly comes from the left—the right doesn't criticize her for any of this stuff because they support it too.
One does not shake the box containing the sticky notes of doom!
Except, as was discussed, Trump absolutely tried to use it against her in the election, to the point of lying about his own support of the Iraq War.
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I certainly don't think "working class" is a clear dog whistle; both parties have used it extensively because it's a shorthand and polite way of referring to the lower and lower-middle class, which is by far the biggest single economic block in the country.
edited 3rd Apr '17 3:11:04 PM by CaptainCapsase
The leaders of the Democratic Party do (that is if you believe Tom Perez).
Sanders knows how to enthuse voters, he knows how to talk to Trump supporters to get them on his side and he's seen as an honest politician.
Hell, my dad is a staunch Republican that thinks Obama is a Kenyan and a Muslim but even he thinks Bernie is a good, honest guy.
If the Democratic Party was smart they'd piggyback off of his popularity which they seem to be doing.
edited 3rd Apr '17 3:08:32 PM by MadSkillz
@henry
Except, as was already explained to you by Tobias, Trump did try to use that against her. Because the right has no shame and the Internet left will lap their BS up if it attacks "the Establishment".
He went after her about it again and again too. So you either had your eyes and ears closed the whole election or you consider Trump a member of "the left".
edited 3rd Apr '17 3:13:09 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar
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Do they though, or are you just using the tried and true (and admittedly very effective) debating tactic of throwing out accusations of prejudice to short circuit a debate? It's an incredibly common turn of phrase in both parties in my own experience (and in fact it's a term which has an actual meaning rather than someone that was invented as a dog whistle like "strapping young bucks on welfare"), and it's generally intended to be vague enough that voters can project themselves into the term.
edited 3rd Apr '17 3:19:09 PM by CaptainCapsase

edited 3rd Apr '17 2:39:07 PM by math792d
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.