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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I know we're steering away from the topic, but just a little bit more about my background; I was an extreme social outcast for a good seven or so years of my life until college. Never made any friends after moving after elementary school, never spent time with other people or dated. Spent a lot of time on the internet. By all counts I should have ended up as another alt-right troll, but I didn't. I really do think that my parents' guidance, learning to deal with my anger and depression through martial arts and Eastern philosophy, and watching good media like Avatar helped a lot.
Anyway, it would not surprise me if inciting violence does get Trump, even if it's not a critical blow to him. I don't think it will lead to him getting impeached and thrown out of the White House, but at the very least I hope he isn't just going to weasel his way out of it either. The courts fighting against him can't cut him any slack.
I dunno that you can really take him to court over him just saying stuff, sadly enough. Like, accusations about what he says will fly fast and furious, but I don't think he's going to get taken to any kind of court about it.
Kinda feels like the lot of you are hoping that it will eventually happen, with absolutely no sign that it's currently possible and banking on the hope that we get a Democratic wave that will then also feel like impeaching him or otherwise damaging his reputation will then be the wisest course at that point. (Which it might well not be because a whole lot can happen in two years.)
At this point I think it is pretty fair to predict that he'll be able to get through one term and not have any kind of charges brought against him. The thing that seems likely is that his general incompetence will make it hard for him to get another term, if he even has the energy for it at that point.
The concept of taking him to court over his words would stand stronger ground if this weren't the US, with its almost virulent obsession with "free speech" whatever the cost, we were talking about
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Chuck Schumer believes that it is unlikely that the Gorsuch is not likely to 60 votes. I'm not sure what to think, but what I wanted to bring it up.
edited 2nd Apr '17 4:28:36 PM by megaeliz
Re: background. Straight, white male. Currently leaning left over the last few years (lets just say I witnessed the genesis of the alt-right and leave it at that).
More on topic: UN warns that the right to protest is in grave danger
And the Democrats
are Urging trump to veto the bill that would repeal the FCC regulations.
and the Russia investigation is proving if Trump aides helped Rissian inteligance
as early as early 2016
has anyone seen this.
https://www.gofundme.com/AltParks
It's a petition to UNESCO to make several National Parks World Heritage sites. Apparently it's being backed by actual park rangers who are worried that the republicans will try to defund the parks or drill for oil.
edited 2nd Apr '17 4:38:38 PM by megaeliz
The goal makes sense. Drilling for Oil in the parks would invoke the eyesores that is fracking machines, make parks even uglier via pollution and would eventually make them unsustainable because the oil and other things would had caused the plant life to die and the food chain and ecosystem to follow suit.
Yellowstone is on that list right? Given the volcano there Fracking machines would be a potential Doomsday Weapon there.
And it seems
s implied Yellowstone is listed. Good.
edited 2nd Apr '17 4:44:08 PM by MorningStar1337
This is an actual true story I heard on the Ken Burns Documentary, "When he was on his campaign tour, he went to Yosemite. He told the reporters that he would be attending a party at the Grand Lodge in the park. While the rest of his entourage went to the lodge, he quietly meant John Muir and went camping, before all the reporters knew they had been tricked.
Ask the person who runs the Twitter account @Alt Yellowstone Nat Par. They might get a kick out of that.
https://twitter.com/altyellonatpark?lang=en
edited 2nd Apr '17 5:29:25 PM by megaeliz

There's a troper introduction thread here
.
Also:
Trump also insisted that a plan to dismantle Obamacare was being negotiated "as we speak," and that it was his idea to call off a vote on House Speaker Paul Ryan's American Health Care Act.
Asked if he pulled the bill because he didn't want to lose, Trump responded, "I don't lose."
Later, when questioned on if he regretted any of his statements on Twitter, the president returned to a familiar theme.
"I don't regret anything because there is nothing you can do about it," he said. "If you issue hundreds of tweets, and every once in a while you have a clinker, that's not so bad."
And despite FBI Director James Comey's insistence last month that there was no basis to Trump's wiretapping allegations, which he made on Twitter, in the FT interview the president asserted that his claim "is turning out to be true."
edited 2nd Apr '17 3:38:43 PM by CenturyEye
Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives