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henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#180351: Mar 31st 2017 at 11:37:15 AM

It's only been a few days since the Republican effort to destroy the ACA fell apart, but I hope it's not to soon to get excited about the possibility of an even better health care system.

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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#180352: Mar 31st 2017 at 11:40:26 AM

Sanders introduces a bill to that effect every year. Never goes anywhere, and if you think it's going to in a Republican dominated House and Senate you're dreaming.

Then again, I see we're linking to The Intercept again so enough said perhaps.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#180353: Mar 31st 2017 at 11:43:29 AM

Those are solid ideas, but they need two things. A) Detailed policies, funding mechanisms, public outreach, etc, so that the idea can actually function. And B) Wait until at least 2020, and hope that the Democrats take full control of the Federal government.

You also need some more Dems at the state level, so ideologue governors don't sink this in certain regions. And hope to god that Trump only gets to fill one SC slot.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#180354: Mar 31st 2017 at 11:44:03 AM

Only way Single Payer or Medicare for all is happening is in increments. And even if it WAS possible to immediately vote on a Single-Payer bill, the results could be completely disastrous, considering all the legalities that have to be taken care of AND the fact it's 13% of our economy, which is MORE than enough to cause a severe recession, and affect our trade partners around the world.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#180356: Mar 31st 2017 at 11:46:32 AM

Fake court.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#180357: Mar 31st 2017 at 11:53:20 AM

Re. Single Payer:

Yeah, I know there's now way this is happening within the next few years, but in the long run, I think it's definitely a goal worth working towards.

edited 31st Mar '17 11:53:42 AM by henry42

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#180358: Mar 31st 2017 at 12:07:51 PM

Single payer won't happen immediately and trying to ram it through immediately is irresponsible. It's still something that must be expanded, and the expansion of Medicare is one avenue by which it can eventually be accomplished.

edited 31st Mar '17 12:08:06 PM by CrimsonZephyr

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#180359: Mar 31st 2017 at 12:22:55 PM

So, how goes Gorusch's confirmation?

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#180360: Mar 31st 2017 at 12:32:50 PM

He's not getting through unless they nuke the filibuster. And considering how much a dumpster fire Trump is, Mitch would take away the GO Ps means of opposition. Once it's gone, that's it.

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#180361: Mar 31st 2017 at 1:09:26 PM

I remember hearing someone discussing his negging during his campaign somewhere, but I can't recall the source. Maybe I'm just remembering my own realization of how he treats... well, pretty much everything.

That was me. I pointed out a few times how Trump's campaign involved using PUA tactics to try and coerce America into bed with him, up to and including the negging campaign that is MAGA.

Regarding the rejection of Flynn's immunity

I support this decision. I read that letter from the lawyer that was posted a few pages back, and it was clear that Flynn isn't offering to testify to anything of value. He wasn't saying, "Protect me and I will roll over on Trump." Instead, he was holding testimony of his own innocence hostage.

Flynn's offer was basically, "Y'all are a crooked fake justice system and I will not speak even a single word to my defense until I am assured that I won't ever be charged for anything."

It'd be flatly stupid for the Justice Department to accept that offer. We'll see if he changes his tune once the investigation's further along.

EDIT: Like, he actually calls the prospect of legal consequences for his actions, "unfair prosecution". He wasn't offering us anything of value, I can assure you of that.

edited 31st Mar '17 1:12:29 PM by TobiasDrake

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henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#180362: Mar 31st 2017 at 1:39:23 PM

[up] This is the first time I've seen the Trump campaign's tactics compared to those of the PUA community, although I guess it makes sense, considering that PUAs have effectively become part of the alt-right at this point.

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carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#180363: Mar 31st 2017 at 1:40:26 PM

Hell, Trump and friends are openly encouraging the immunity deal. I doubt they'd be so friendly if he really was going to turn on them like many seem to think he is.

edited 31st Mar '17 1:40:58 PM by carbon-mantis

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#180364: Mar 31st 2017 at 1:43:43 PM

I mean, really the only reason to accept that deal would be if he knew something that would incriminate Trump.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#180365: Mar 31st 2017 at 1:57:54 PM

They might settle for Bannon.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#180367: Mar 31st 2017 at 2:08:26 PM

[up]It doesn't matter. He kind of tanked his own reputability with the PizzaGate thing, and among his sources cited to refute Flynn's request for immunity is InfoWars and some random conspiracy theorist nutcase. The only people who'd even pay attention to him are the usual right-wing cultists.

edited 31st Mar '17 2:08:37 PM by danime91

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#180368: Mar 31st 2017 at 2:10:57 PM

From today's "What the Fuck Just Happened Today"

Tom Price helped kill a rule that would hurt drug company profits the same day he acquired drug stock. The HHS secretary bought $90,000 worth of pharmaceutical stock. He said his broker acted on his behalf without his involvement or knowledge

https://www.propublica.org/article/tom-price-intervened-rule-hurt-drug-profits-same-day-acquired-drug-stock

Proving why Blind Trusts are a Thing?

edited 31st Mar '17 2:13:56 PM by sgamer82

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#180369: Mar 31st 2017 at 3:37:16 PM

Trump signs 2 Executive Orders about 'kickstarting American Manufacturing'... But forgot to actually sign them when he announced them.

[down] If it was declared by anyone other then Trump, I would applaud the move, but this is coming from "Grab'em by the P****" Trump!

Still, it's a noble goal, and I approve of it. I just don't approve of Trump.tongue

edited 31st Mar '17 3:46:38 PM by DingoWalley1

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#180370: Mar 31st 2017 at 3:40:24 PM

Trump proclaims April 'Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month'

😂😂😂😂😂😂

These people have so little self awareness it's comical

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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#180374: Mar 31st 2017 at 4:36:19 PM

As an aside, holy crap, Ryan does look smarmy.

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009

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