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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#180251: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:29:48 PM

I'm loving how incompetent these shitheads are. In the time it took me to start typing the same stuff, and back out deciding I need to read the article before posting it, two people had the exact same fix. Only difference from me is that I thought they had already made everything publicly available.

Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
#180252: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:34:02 PM

And we should take this to heart: if this disgusting powergrab fails, it will be because those involved were incompetent. Imagine where we'd be if the current regime was good at consolidating power and silencing criticism.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#180253: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:34:13 PM

[up]x2, [up]x4 and [up]x5: Wait for them to redefine publicly available in such a way that makes it very hard for EPA to regulate. (for example: it has to be published in mass media, which is now redefined as "news channels watched by somewhere between Fox News's audience and second most watched channel, so only Fox News fits").

edited 30th Mar '17 5:34:34 PM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#180254: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:35:46 PM

[up] Pretty sure that would violate Freedom of Speech and Press Laws by saying "only channel X is Press."

Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#180255: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:36:47 PM

[up][up] For the record, "publicly available" is already cause for concern. A lot of studies about effects on public health rely on medical data, which has to be kept confidential.

edited 30th Mar '17 5:36:57 PM by Blueeyedrat

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#180256: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:38:45 PM

Also, you would have to look more carefully at what publically available means. A lot of science in all fields is locked behind paywalled journals and databases which have been resisting opening themselves up for mass consumption. Any science paid for with public money is automatically open sourced but that doesn't mean the administration won't try to muzzle it (though there are volunteer data rescue efforts being made to preserve as much as possible).

In worse news: A Planned Parenthood defunding bill has passed the Senate on Pence's tiebreaker vote.

edited 30th Mar '17 5:39:19 PM by Elle

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#180257: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:40:40 PM

[up][up][up]They wouldn't be saying that, they'd be saying (numbers for the sake of argument, I don't know the actual numbers): "publicly available is here defined as 'audience is higher than 40 million people'" and coincidentially, Fox's audience is 45 million while CNN's is 30 million.

Also, what the two posts above mine say: not all of the important science will be publicly available by current standards for reasons that make sense in context.

[up]Fuck Pence.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#180258: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:48:43 PM

I'm completely losing it about Trump targeting Net Neutrality next. I can't stop twitching, I keep on looking left and right, I'm starting to feel hostile, and I feel as if my life is about to fall down the drain. I really, really need my full unrestrained internet access. I talk to my friend on Deviantart, look at great fanart on Pixiv and watch Youtube videos every day for most of the day, and I sure as hell am not paying to do have to do that for a temporary amount of time!

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#180259: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:49:49 PM

[up][up] Would that be legal either? Accepting facts from only one or a few sources while discouraging, ignoring or completely discrediting other sources based on popularity? I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be Constitutional, either.

edited 30th Mar '17 5:53:35 PM by DingoWalley1

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#180260: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:50:40 PM

[up]

Take consolation in the fact that the Net Neutrality bullshit is less personally-impugning than the "sell your data" stuff.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#180261: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:54:12 PM

[up] I generally only stick to a handful of sites (Mainly video game and fanart ones) anyways, so the data thing doesn't really bother me. Net Neutrality, on the other hand, does, because unless Cox is feeling merciful and keeps my access to everything the same, I'm fucked.

edited 30th Mar '17 5:56:47 PM by Bat178

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#180262: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:54:58 PM

A negative impact on the internet might cause another SOPA style revolt. It almost did in the US (they backed off) and even the Hungarians turned on Orban when he proposed taxing the internet.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#180263: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:57:36 PM

Also keep in mind that the big tech companies (Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, etc) will be fighting on the side of Net Neutrality as they have in the past. This issue is tied directly to their bottom line as the telcoms want to charge them premiums too.

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#180264: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:58:31 PM

[up][up] Don't expect the Republicans to listen. They are almost fully in control of the Government now unlike with Obama, and we've seen how they react to protest. Not to mention the Telecoms are bribing them to repeal this stuff. Almost all the Republicans in the House and Congress that voted for the anti-internet privacy bill were payed big money by the Telecoms to do it.

edited 30th Mar '17 6:00:23 PM by Bat178

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#180265: Mar 30th 2017 at 5:59:55 PM

I agree; Even if Net Neutrality is completely killed off (I think it will be more like parts will be kept, parts will be removed), large Internet Companies will be sure that most, or all, Internet Providers stay as Net Neutral as possible. Can you imagine a lawsuit between Google and Comcast-Verizon being a good thing for either of them? I certainly don't.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#180266: Mar 30th 2017 at 6:02:09 PM

If they fuck with the internet and it has a negative impact on people's performance or an unacceptable rise in costs, they are done in 2018. Too many people care too strongly about it.

Now, that will suck hard for a few years/months, but it could also help spell the doom of a party that's already on shaky ground. They might have actually Russian agents in their ranks, and the FBI is on to them. They are stuck between pleasing their most extreme element and blatantly fucking over the population (including their base), and having their agenda grind to a halt. They have a buffoon as their leader, who only makes all their other issues worse when he's not busy causing new problems.

If they decide to screw over people's internet browsing on top of that? I'm pretty sure that counts as some form of collective political suicide.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#180267: Mar 30th 2017 at 6:11:57 PM

There is going to be a Tax Record March and Conservation March in April.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#180268: Mar 30th 2017 at 7:00:54 PM

The attempts to defund Planned Parenthood depress me. Only three percent of their services involve abortion. This is really about screwing with peoples' health, especially poor peoples'.

The GOP is like a Bastard Boyfriend (or girlfriend) that America refuses to break up with, no matter how many times they hit us and make us feel like less of a person.

Once again, the President that's supposed to be amazing for women.

edited 30th Mar '17 7:18:51 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#180269: Mar 30th 2017 at 7:02:29 PM

[up] They even get themselves elected over and over again by more or less negging America into voting for them. Just look at Trump's "MAGA" speeches which hammered home over and over again how America sucks (and how it's all everyone else's fault) and that he's the only one who can make it not suck anymore...

edited 30th Mar '17 7:03:43 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#180270: Mar 30th 2017 at 7:07:50 PM

[up] Yet he and his party are the ones making it suck more.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#180271: Mar 30th 2017 at 7:19:59 PM

[up][up]I remember hearing someone discussing his negging during his campaign somewhere, but I can't recall the source. Maybe I'm just remembering my own realization of how he treats... well, pretty much everything.

edited 30th Mar '17 7:20:15 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
optimusjamie Since: Jun, 2010
#180272: Mar 30th 2017 at 7:37:24 PM

I believe it was brought up a few times in this thread.

Direct all enquiries to Jamie B Good
HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#180273: Mar 30th 2017 at 7:53:44 PM

Late to the party with this, for which I apologize:

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#180274: Mar 30th 2017 at 8:22:24 PM

I-85 fire: Section of Atlanta highway collapses

No relation to terrorism, but it might say something about our issues with infrastructure.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#180275: Mar 30th 2017 at 8:36:58 PM

Traffic is going to be fucked for months in the best case scenario.

Holy fuck.

New Survey coming this weekend!

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