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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#180201: Mar 30th 2017 at 1:23:17 PM

This comment on Reddit has my eyes like O_O!!

Like...holy fuck.

There's going down the rabbit hole, and then there's a black hole abyss.

If Trump was the first Trojan Horse of the FSB....

How do we know they aren't funding local politicians and flying COMPLETELY under the radar?!

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#180202: Mar 30th 2017 at 1:38:31 PM

Out of curiosity, why so much vitriol for Starship Troopers? I actually found the premise to be an interesting one, and even the novel kind of left it unclear about how much of the news was fact and how much was propaganda (namely the asteroid hitting Argentina being used as a rallying cry to squash the bugs).

Plus, I honestly like the idea of requiring some form of public service - whether it be in the military or community beautification group (which is what the Pluto cleanup stuff amounted to) - in order to have someone run for office, as it exemplifies the idea of "Service above self". After all, we wouldn't have Lord Dampnut in office if that were required, and Dick Cheney would have been similarly disqualified. And that said, expanding it to anyone wanting to vote is a bridge too far - just those that want to hold public office.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#180203: Mar 30th 2017 at 1:40:08 PM

Starship Troopers and its hard on for the military is not the topic of the thread. We did make another topic for relating media to US politics, or you can start your own.

Plus, it was basically about a military coup that then instated the rule that you couldn't fucking VOTE if you hadn't served in the military; civilians didn't count as citizens, apparently. Not exactly defensible.

edited 30th Mar '17 1:40:58 PM by AceofSpades

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#180204: Mar 30th 2017 at 1:45:06 PM

[up] That's a gross misrepresentation; we can discuss what Starship Troopers actually meant in the Heinlein topic over in the Literature forum if you want.

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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#180205: Mar 30th 2017 at 1:50:10 PM

The Times claims to know who gave Nunes the Information Trump was 'incidentally' caught in surveillance: Ezra Cohen-Watnick, a Senior Director at the NSA, and Michael Ellis, a Lawyer for the NSA. Of course, Nunes refuses to say if it was or wasn't them, but Michael Ellis was the target of previous Speculations on who gave him the Info.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#180206: Mar 30th 2017 at 1:50:26 PM

[up][up][up]Sigh, not the military specifically but government service. Non-military occupations are mentioned when Johnny applies and he automatically waves them away because he's trying to impress a girl. Also it's mentioned that you cannot be denied from serving no matter what condition you're in. As Heinlein mentions you could be blind and paraplegic and they'd still have to take you.

edited 30th Mar '17 1:52:36 PM by tricksterson

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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
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#180207: Mar 30th 2017 at 1:53:13 PM

I've already necroed the Heinlein thread with the question of what the book means, so let's take that talk over there. tongue

So it sounds like it was a bad day for internet privacy but a black eye and a bloody nose for Trump's future shenanigans?

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#180208: Mar 30th 2017 at 1:54:15 PM

Edit- Taking to the other thread.

edited 30th Mar '17 1:54:33 PM by Hodor2

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#180209: Mar 30th 2017 at 2:04:12 PM

Senator Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND) to vote for Gorsuch for the Supreme Court.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#180210: Mar 30th 2017 at 2:09:12 PM

If I were a less rational and vindictive person, I'd fully support primarying the fuck out of her, but considering that Mitch needs 8 Dems to confirm him to the Senate, and we need more Dems than not in our eventual 2018 blue wave....

Fuck it. I'm annoyed and pissed off, but have to think of the long game.

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IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#180211: Mar 30th 2017 at 2:11:41 PM

@Fox (the Cambridge Analytica-Russia link): well, there's a Bannon link to Russia, and seeing as Pence was suggested as VP by Manafort, is there anyone in the Trump swampinistration who's not linked to Russia one way or another?

Also, do we have some way to "sanity-check" (for lack of a better term) this entire thing? I want to know if we're not just becoming so paranoid everyone is an enemy.

edited 30th Mar '17 2:14:03 PM by IFwanderer

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Overlording the Underworld
#180212: Mar 30th 2017 at 2:30:44 PM

Eh, the entire GOP is an enemy. Full stop. The question you should be asking is short term enemy or long term enemy. Who can we ally with for now until we can find a better person to fill their shoes later?

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#180213: Mar 30th 2017 at 2:38:10 PM

[up]Not what I meant, I was talking more about the Russia thing.

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#180215: Mar 30th 2017 at 2:51:22 PM

The Republicans really don't know what to do. They're not the party of Get Things Done, they're the party of NO! and "I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!" Anyone who counts on them to do anything is self deluded in the extreme. They're a legislative terrorist organization now, not a functioning party. They should be classed that way, dissolved, and replaced by the Dems splitting up into Conservative Dems and Progressive Dems. Different names, obviously, but you get the point.

Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
#180216: Mar 30th 2017 at 3:35:31 PM

Michael Flynn is offering to testify in exchange for immunity from prosecution.

It's the Wall Street Journal so anything beyond the headline is behind their paywall, but it'll be everywhere in a few minutes.

EDIT: A bit of interesting info, apparently he's not had any takers on the offer.

edited 30th Mar '17 3:41:17 PM by Watashiwa

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#180217: Mar 30th 2017 at 3:37:11 PM

He's a dead man walking if he's not place in PC.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#180218: Mar 30th 2017 at 3:38:48 PM

[up][up]O_O

This can't be good for the administration.

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henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#180219: Mar 30th 2017 at 3:41:03 PM

If I were a less rational and vindictive person, I'd fully support primarying the fuck out of her...
I really don't see why this would be a bad thing.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#180220: Mar 30th 2017 at 3:43:51 PM

Can anyone truly offer him protection?

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#180221: Mar 30th 2017 at 3:48:41 PM

So the tweeting was true!

Please, someone, anyone, protect Flynn! I'd rather he be a free man if it means we can get rid of all the other Russian Traitors! Please!

[up] I'm sure somebody can, it's just really worrying that no one has taken him up on the offer. If he dies in the next couple of days, we'll all know why...sad

edited 30th Mar '17 3:50:13 PM by DingoWalley1

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#180222: Mar 30th 2017 at 3:48:44 PM

[up]X3 Because the primary would either divide the Dems within the state and out the seat even more at risk( if she won) or put in place a contender who would then almost certain,y loose the seat due to lack fo injubancy advantage( if the challenger won) and thus cost the Dems a senate seat.

A Dem senator who votes with Trump even 50% of the time (which I don't think any do) is still better than a Republican who votes with Trump 95% of the time.

edited 30th Mar '17 3:49:05 PM by Silasw

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#180223: Mar 30th 2017 at 3:50:59 PM

[up]x3. I don't know. I think that would rely on one factor: How deep is he in this shit. If he turns out to be embedded into the dealings of the Trump Administration, then he might be held accountable regardless of what ever protection he might be offered. To put simply, the deeper he is, the less likely the news would be able to (or want to) protect him.

edited 30th Mar '17 3:52:25 PM by MorningStar1337

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#180224: Mar 30th 2017 at 3:53:28 PM

Somewhat relevant to this thread, my Prime Minister was the latest European leader to meet the sentient septic tank with bad hair.

I'm surprised the room can contain this high a concentration of Stupid Evil without bursting into flames.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#180225: Mar 30th 2017 at 3:57:48 PM

[up]X3 What's the point of winning back congress from the Republicans if we fill it with Democrats who aren't interested in resisting Trump?

edited 30th Mar '17 3:58:15 PM by henry42

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