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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#179351: Mar 24th 2017 at 10:27:03 AM

[up][up][up][up] Orange and wrinkly. cool

edited 24th Mar '17 10:27:15 AM by Luigisan98

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#179352: Mar 24th 2017 at 10:41:58 AM

wait, so the vote already happened for the Trump Care? what were the results?

edited 24th Mar '17 10:42:24 AM by Jetyl

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#179353: Mar 24th 2017 at 10:46:37 AM

No, it's gonna happen in like 2 hours. They had the Procedural Vote a few hours ago.

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#179354: Mar 24th 2017 at 10:50:13 AM

So, from the sounds of it, Trumpcare is dead in the water. There is no conceivable way it could possibly garner enough votes to actually pass. Everyone hates it, it is clearly stupid, and no one in their right mind would ever vote for it.

Given recent history, I think this means it's going to pass.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#179355: Mar 24th 2017 at 10:53:53 AM

[up] Until that last sentence I was thinking "that's how we got Trump" but yeah. Odds are in our favor this time. I do wonder how long it'll take Trump to go back on his word of keeping the ACA if this does fail

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#179356: Mar 24th 2017 at 10:57:23 AM

Oh, man when/if this bill fails, Donny is gonna explode on Twitter.

Meltdown will be glorious.

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tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#179357: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:00:06 AM

Betting at least half the Republicans who said they'd vote against Trumpcare chicken out.

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#179358: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:04:26 AM

[up]Even if they did, that still wouldn't be enough votes to pass the bill, so it's still dead in the water anyway, and there's a decent chance their constituents would tear them apart for voting to take away their healthcare.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#179359: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:06:20 AM

And all Liberals and opponents will all go with a very glorious "Deal with it" comment ending with "Sad!". cool

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#179360: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:06:30 AM

Idaho’s Labrador resists growing White House pressure to back health care repeal bill

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/article140424128.html

One of my state's (Republican) representatives is resistant to the ACHA, stating he feels more time should be taken to get it done right than get it done fast. It should also be noted he rated Trump as "magnificent" during that private meeting and is credited for helping create the Freedom Caucus (is that just a new name of the Tea Party?)

Obama made a statement yesterday about the ACA's anniversary:

http://time.com/4710841/obamacare-repeal-barack-obama-statement/

edited 24th Mar '17 11:08:24 AM by sgamer82

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#179361: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:11:06 AM

[up] Those are the Tea Party members in the House; the Freedom Caucus is their own little clique, essentially.

[up][up][up][up] Currently, there are 34 Republicans saying 'no' and 18 Republicans leaning 'no' (the numbers may have slightly changed since yesterday). Republicans can only afford to have 21 members saying 'no', as it expected that 0 Democrats will say 'yes'. The minute a 22nd Republican votes 'no', Ryancare is dead.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#179362: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:16:54 AM

Place bets ya'll. Out of all the Russian contacts under Trump, who do you think is gonna be the one to say "Fuck it, I'm not going to prison for this asshole." and sing like a canary in exchange for protection/immunity?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#179363: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:18:00 AM

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/24/us/politics/health-care-affordable-care-act.html?referer=https://t.co/Q6x0ylg3F3?amp=1

Seems Ryan is in proper panic mode now.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan, facing a revolt among conservative and moderate Republicans, rushed to the White House Friday afternoon to inform President Trump he did not have the votes to pass legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act and to decide whether to pull the bill from consideration.

The president and the speaker faced the humiliating prospect of a major defeat on legislation promised for seven years, since the landmark health legislation was signed into law. President Trump had demanded a vote regardless, which has been scheduled for Friday afternoon. But House leaders were leaning against such a public loss.

The House opened debate Friday on what could be one of the most consequential pieces of legislation in years, a bill that could roll back a major, established social welfare program, a feat that is almost unheard of.

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#179364: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:20:19 AM

Not over til the fat lady sings, though!

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#179365: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:21:40 AM

Constant vigilance! Zero complacency! Keep fighting until the battle is actually won!

If we take anything away from the 2016 election, that should be it.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#179366: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:21:46 AM

You are now picturing Trump in a dress trying to hit a high note

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#179367: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:22:12 AM

This highlights the fact that it's really hard to undo social welfare programs wholesale. Of course, that plays into the far right's narrative of government being fundamentally broken, but what can you do?

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#179368: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:22:59 AM

If anyone here has a Republican representative, now would be a good time to call them and pressure them to vote no.

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#179369: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:24:30 AM

I half expect Trump is trying to push this to vote despite Ryan's urgings against it because he wants to see how many Republicans fall in line. It's a test of Congressional loyalty to him.

He's done this over and over. It's basically his one and only poker strategy. No matter what he's holding in his hand, he just keeps raising the bet until everyone else folds.

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#179370: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:24:38 AM

I slightly feel sorry for Ryan, but at the same time, I honestly feel that, not only should Ryancare die, Ryan himself should lose his Speakership. Ryan went about this so badly that I can't think he should have such an important position. He's clearly not the leading type. I understand that the pressures of both the Teapublicans and Trump got to him, but that just makes it worse: That he can't stand up to people both above and below him. Boehner, for all his faults, was able to tell the Teapublicans 'no' from time to time (or at least, that's what I remember). Ryan is beholden to all these factions and can't stand up for himself. His spinelessness, and the way he did everything so so wrong when it came to this bill, should get him to leave for someone who can 'do better'... for the next year, until Pelosi retakes the Speakership.

edited 24th Mar '17 11:25:40 AM by DingoWalley1

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#179371: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:25:17 AM

They're going to look like absolute chumps if this doesn't pass.

I'll be hoping for the schaudenfreude. Would be a great bonus to what has already started out as a great day.

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#179372: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:27:59 AM

Ryan devoted his entire speakership around the concept of repealing the ACA. If he can't command a majority for that piece of legislation, he honestly should resign, since his brain is empty of pretty much everything else.

edited 24th Mar '17 11:28:16 AM by CrimsonZephyr

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#179373: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:28:46 AM

I think Trump has basically the same opinion of the Republicans that speak out against him as we do: it's all just empty talk and they'll fall in line when pushed.

So when a GOP congressman is like, "This is outrageous and I will absolutely vote against party on this," Trump's response is to go, "Oh, will you now? LOOK WE'RE HAVING A VOTE. Time to put up or shut up: whose side are you on?"

edited 24th Mar '17 11:30:11 AM by TobiasDrake

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#179374: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:30:45 AM

At this point i would be surprised if the GOP Congresscritters grow a spine.

edited 24th Mar '17 11:30:56 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#179375: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:31:12 AM

[up][up] That might've worked in the past, but the Teapublicans are absolutely nuts and almost always serious. They will not vote with their party if they think a deal is bad. And a lot of Teapublicans think this deal is bad.

[down][down] I can agree with that, at the very least.

edited 24th Mar '17 11:34:52 AM by DingoWalley1


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