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#178776: Mar 20th 2017 at 9:00:51 PM

[up] Considering that they have Wikileaks at their beck and call, it seems very likely they do.

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#178777: Mar 20th 2017 at 9:00:59 PM

I think the Europeans are used to this already. They already saw the circus when Pence and Mattis did their on-again, off-again NATO commitment (at I-don't-remember which gathering), and the White House contradicted itself every day on the same issue.
Tillerson, by all indications, has no actual pull, and, even if he did, the Europeans are way ahead of us. EU officials, like Tusk, and European diplomats have all but declared the US an enemy. At least as indicated by online newspaper comment sections, European civilians and Canadians have already written us off too. Rather sad, but at least one set of democracies will go in prepared.

edited 20th Mar '17 9:02:18 PM by CenturyEye

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#178778: Mar 20th 2017 at 9:03:11 PM

[up][up][up]Or maybe the idiots in the GOP are just that: Idiots. There's not always a rhyme or reason for being an idiot, nor is there always an iota of common sense involved. Sometimes, idiots just... are.

edited 20th Mar '17 9:03:29 PM by kkhohoho

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Asgore Adopts Noelle
#178779: Mar 20th 2017 at 9:10:07 PM

I expect treason charges for the big cheeto by the end of the first 100 days.

Unfortunately, I don't see Trump getting into any trouble as long as the Republicans have the House. They may not even pass Ryancare/Obamacare Lite, but they aren't going to throw Trump under the bus because they need him for things they do want. I am, however, expecting the very first day of the 116th Congress (Which I'm expecting to be a Democrat Majority) to begin Impeachment Proceedings for Libel, Slander, Obstruction of Justice, Abuse of Power and Corruption (barring anything else we learn in the next Year). Then again, if the Senate remains Republican (which is possible, although I think it's unlikely), they may just ignore any attempt at impeaching Trump and we'd have to wait until 2020 to get him out of office.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#178780: Mar 20th 2017 at 9:10:24 PM

Hanlon's Razor is a tough nut to crack in this situation.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#178781: Mar 20th 2017 at 9:52:29 PM

[up][up]The Senate remaining in republican control is highly likely. A tied senate is the absolute best case scenario unless the Dems manage to flip some states that have no businesses flipping. Like, having a democrat beat Ted Cruz in Texas is probably the most plausible way it could happen.

edited 20th Mar '17 9:53:00 PM by Gilphon

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#178782: Mar 20th 2017 at 9:54:03 PM

Even then the Senate would have to vote to convict with a two third majority from what I understand.

Push come to shove the Dems shouldn't try for impeachment unless they know they have the votes, a failed impeachment would hurt massively.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#178783: Mar 21st 2017 at 4:55:37 AM

What about Republicans efforts to Gerrymander districts in 2010. From what I understand, this was a big player in what got us into this mess in the first place.

http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/07/19/gerrymandering-republicans-redmap

edited 21st Mar '17 4:57:27 AM by megaeliz

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178784: Mar 21st 2017 at 5:35:55 AM

[up] The repeal of the Voting Rights Act didn't help things either.

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#178785: Mar 21st 2017 at 5:37:22 AM

Nor does the exaggeration.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#178786: Mar 21st 2017 at 6:09:47 AM

Atlanta is rather popular lately...
Joint quote from: Ossoff aims for knockout blow in Georgia special election & Hill slams GOP rivals as Ossoff, Gray gain ground in Georgia special election

His Republican rivals call him “Darth Vader,” a “lightweight liberal” and a “puppet of the left.” Fellow Democrats vow to block his “coronation” and paint him as an outsider. More than $1 million has already been spent to bog down his candidacy.

Just about every candidate in the crowded April 18 special election to represent the district, which spans from east Cobb County to north De Kalb County, has assailed the 30-year-old former congressional aide. And Republicans determined to keep a GOP stronghold are readying more attacks.

The increasingly barbed attacks from the rivals reflect a fast-changing calculus in the race to replace former Rep. Tom Price. A zPolitics poll released Monday showed Ossoff at 41 percent – and Gray deadlocked with former Secretary of State Karen Handel at 16 percent.

Many GOP analysts now see Ossoff, who has raised more than $3 million, as a shoo-in to land the most votes in the special election for the seat, which stretches from east Cobb to north De Kalb. That’s prompted the 11 Republicans to sharpen their attacks on each other – and Ossoff.


In Atlanta, Brexit champion Farage dismisses Russian interference claims
A top British ally of Donald Trump dismissed the idea that Russia interfered in the 2016 election on Monday even as the FBI’s director confirmed an investigation into possible links between the president’s campaign and Russian government.

Nigel Farage, the British populist leader, said after an appearance at the Rotary Club of Atlanta that the notion that there was any coordination between the two camps was “absolutely ridiculous.”

“Do governments watch and fiddle around in other countries’ elections?” Farage said. “Well, America’s done that over the last 60 years. But the idea that there was some collusion? That’s utter rubbish.”

FBI Director James Comey told a House Intelligence panel on Monday that the agency is investigating the “Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 president election,” a probe that is investigating whether Trump aides were in contact with Russian officials.

Farage, who led the pro-Brexit U.K. Independence Party, delivered a pro-Trump pep talk to a decidedly mixed crowd of Rotary business power brokers, drawing scattered laughter – and some praise – from the corporate chief executives and community leaders in the audience.

His message to them was pointed: “The revolution of 2016 is not over.”

“Anyone here who is a strong Democrat and really thinks the European Union is a strong project, your lives are going to get more miserable,” Farage said, adding of Trump’s critics: “They all think this is just some revolt by ill-educated, rarely washed peasants and we’ll all go back to normal. Well it won’t.”

...As for Trump, he said his sharpest critics will be surprised by a “genuinely pro-business president” who is willing to slash corporate tax rates.

“He does make little mistakes, but his instincts on the big stuff are right,” Farage said, predicting that the U.S.-U.K. ties will strengthen through the course of his presidency.

“He genuinely feels he’s made a promise to the American people,” he said. “That promise was the ticket and the policies on which he was elected. And that attitude is come hell or high water, whatever challenges come his way, he’s going to put that ticket into action.”

His remarks were met with a mix of polite applause and, at times, laughter at his barbed quips. After the event, developer Emory Morsberger delivered his assessment on Farage’s appearance.

“He’s a charming, British version of Trump.”

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#178787: Mar 21st 2017 at 6:16:02 AM

[up]You can keep him. Please, keep "our" Nige. Indefinitely.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#178788: Mar 21st 2017 at 6:23:24 AM

[up]We have enough of our own shitty politicians, we don't need yours.

i'm tired, my friend
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#178789: Mar 21st 2017 at 6:25:16 AM

[up]What bribery would you be willing to consider to keep the toad?

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#178790: Mar 21st 2017 at 6:33:49 AM

[up]isn't that the jackass that resigned from his position as soon as he got what he supposedly wanted, leaving the entire European Union to deal with his mess?

Yeah, screw that guy. He's probably in the pocket of Putin too.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178791: Mar 21st 2017 at 6:37:36 AM

We already have an orange shitgibbon. We don't need that overgrown toad too.

Disgusted, but not surprised
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Lost in Space
#178792: Mar 21st 2017 at 6:43:41 AM

He hasn't been as orange lately on TV. Must not have time for the spray-tanning.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178794: Mar 21st 2017 at 7:52:05 AM

[up][up] Weird. He sure has time to golf.

Disgusted, but not surprised
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#178795: Mar 21st 2017 at 7:53:12 AM

What bribery would you be willing to consider to keep the toad?

All of your tea for as long as he stays in the US.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178796: Mar 21st 2017 at 7:55:02 AM

[up] Kippers too. If we have to put up with Farage, we should at least get the kippers that actually have value (as food) too.

Disgusted, but not surprised
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#178797: Mar 21st 2017 at 8:16:15 AM

How about we simply exile him to St. Helena.

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CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#178798: Mar 21st 2017 at 8:19:42 AM

The tea, the Kippers, and a fair negotiation on trading Mcconnell or Ryan (both! 2 for 1!) for Sir John Major.

Also more WTF perfectly normal occurrences: President Trump's daughter Ivanka to get White House office

President Trump's daughter Ivanka Trump will get an office in the White House, an administration official has said.

But she will not have an official title or salary when she works in the West Wing - the hub of US executive power.

The official also confirmed media reports that the 35-year-old would have access to classified information.

Her role will be to serve as Donald Trump's "eyes and ears" while providing broad-ranging advice, her attorney was quoted as saying by Politico.

...Since Mr Trump's inauguration in January, Ms Trump has been seen attending meetings with world leaders, including Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and German Chancellor Angela Merkel.


So, if the big orange is our eternal president, does Jared or Ivanka end up as the dear leader. Bets? Anyone? Oh, stop that crying...

Also, what are this specific forum's rules on anything related to abortion? There's a BBC story more notable for its irony than anything on either side.

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178799: Mar 21st 2017 at 8:30:14 AM

[up] Man, the GOP would be screaming for impeachment if President HRC had given Chelsea a WH office and access to classified info.

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#178800: Mar 21st 2017 at 8:31:14 AM

Abortion is a topic that should be discussed with care.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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