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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#178476: Mar 18th 2017 at 3:13:36 PM

[up]

Could this administration invoke false machismo any more?

Shh! Don't give them any ideas!

Boston Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#178477: Mar 18th 2017 at 3:22:12 PM

@Dingo Walley - That's refreshing! One of the thing I loathed about the election is that it legitimized that sort of person, those sort of attitudes as not only being acceptable, but necessary to achieve highest office. Culturally, we need to stamp out that attitude.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#178478: Mar 18th 2017 at 3:30:07 PM

The border wall is Trump's giant penis. Perhaps that's why it's called "physically imposing"?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#178479: Mar 18th 2017 at 3:33:24 PM

Ew. >.>

Do not obey in advance.
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#178480: Mar 18th 2017 at 3:34:20 PM

As a Nordic, burn Fox News to the ground and salt the earth.

We had enough of being poster boys for wacky race theories the last time this shit was happening. Fuck off.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#178481: Mar 18th 2017 at 3:40:38 PM

Apparently that's an older clip.

Still...yikes.

Oh God! Natural light!
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#178482: Mar 18th 2017 at 3:48:21 PM

What a dork.

Do not obey in advance.
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#178483: Mar 18th 2017 at 3:53:15 PM

[up]That seems eminently offensive to dorks everywhere.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#178484: Mar 18th 2017 at 3:55:23 PM

Trump browbeat the G20 into dropping its pledge to fight Protectionism.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/18/news/economy/g20-trade-protectionism-trump-germany/index.html

The only solace the world can take it is that at least the US will go down with them.

From the article: "Reports suggested China and Australia, among others, pushed hard for the commitment to be retained."

2017 will go down as the year when fucking Communist China wanted to protect free trade more than the self-proclaimed bastion of freedom and democracy.

edited 18th Mar '17 3:55:48 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#178485: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:12:08 PM

2017 will go down as the year when fucking Communist China wanted to protect free trade more than the self-proclaimed bastion of freedom and democracy.
It has nothing to do with moral fortitude. China' economy is heavily dependant on exports — they rely on free trade. Protectionism hurts their bottom line.

edited 18th Mar '17 4:12:27 PM by NativeJovian

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#178486: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:18:03 PM

I bet all those idiots who railed against the TPP must feel real proud of themselves.

New Survey coming this weekend!
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#178487: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:23:18 PM

Most of those people have already drank the anti free trade kool-aid.

edited 18th Mar '17 4:23:34 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#178488: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:26:10 PM

Isn't TPP a "free trade agreement" In Name Only? (like all of its recent predecessors)

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#178489: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:27:38 PM

Honestly, I was not gonna vote for Trump nor Hillary. And voting for her her because she wasn't Trump, that's not a valid reason for me to vote. Her corruption was damn well not gonna become irrelevant to me.

If it comes down to it, I'm not gonna vote for ANY evil, greater or lesser.

edited 18th Mar '17 4:28:06 PM by MarkVonLewis

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#178490: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:31:15 PM

It's almost funny. I was reading the European Politics forum yesterday, and a German troper shared one of their sayings: "Refusing to vote is a vote for the fascist" or something like that.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#178491: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:33:47 PM

So by refusing to vote for the 'lesser evil' you are supporting the bigger one.

As people in the European Politics threads reminded me, we have a saying for that: He who doesn't vote, votes for the Right.

edited 18th Mar '17 4:34:06 PM by 3of4

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MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#178492: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:35:20 PM

That's just, like, your opinion, man. Maybe if the Dems put forth a candidate worth voting for...

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#178493: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:36:31 PM

[up] I hope someday you get to the opportunity to live in a country like mine and actually have to care enough about politics that you can't afford to not vote for people just because they're not perfect bastions of morality.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#178494: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:39:50 PM

There's a vast difference between "not being a perfect bastion of morality" and the corrupt as hell Hillary.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#178495: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:41:27 PM

Assuming all those allegations are true. Which they weren't. But even assuming they are, they're nowhere near as bad as Trump's corruption and general bigotry.

When you're dealing with evil as big as Trump and the current flock of Republicans there's no such thing as neutrality. You're either voting Democrat or you're supporting the Republicans.

edited 18th Mar '17 4:41:42 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#178496: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:41:34 PM

[up][up][up][up]Yes because my country obviously has no reason to be mindful of the consequences of political apathy and/or the effect of populism in the political process. And not spend the last half century getting to grips with that.

And hey, its not like Clinton has not had decades of experience and credentials to actually do the job.

Look at the past fifty FUCKING days and tell me honestly that it would have been the same under her.

edited 18th Mar '17 4:44:16 PM by 3of4

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IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#178497: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:43:48 PM

[up][up][up]Well, if she's so corrupt you should easily be able to number some of the things she did and provide evidence.

EDIT: And seriously, I wish there was a candidate even an eight as good as Hillary Clinton in my country to vote for. Sadly, last one's been dead for about eight years and retired from politics for a longer time.

edited 18th Mar '17 4:47:51 PM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#178498: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:46:10 PM

Honestly, I was not gonna vote for Trump nor Hillary. And voting for her her because she wasn't Trump, that's not a valid reason for me to vote. Her corruption was damn well not gonna become irrelevant to me.

If it comes down to it, I'm not gonna vote for ANY evil, greater or lesser.

I'm going to be honest, all the stuff about Clinton being corrupt rings really hollow now that we've spent the last five months since the election watching Trump treat all the accusations against Clinton like they were an instruction manual or job description.

Can you really look at the last fifty days of fustercluck and say, with sincerity, that not voting for Clinton/not voting at all was a good decision? That you have no regrets at all?

To my view, it was going to be one of them the moment the primaries ended. You can say whatever you want about how Sanders got cheated, but when the primaries ended, as I said earlier, that became irrelevant. Hillary Clinton possessed in great abundance the one thing Donald Trump had not at all: Competence. That, to me, was worth a little corruption as opposed to incompetence with a heaping helping of blatant corruption.

During the election, I'd said often that I didn't like the whole "not voting for Clinton = voting for Trump" schtick. Being honest, I'm... less sure of that now than I was given said fifty days of fustercluck, but even if you didn't want to vote for Clinton, at least vote. To use a quote I've attributed to Jesse Ventura, the only vote truly wasted is the one never cast. If Trump won after you voted for someone who truly wanted, Clinton or otherwise, I woudln't care what you voted for. But not voting at all seems to be to be the same as a vote for Trump. Especially if you had planned to vote Democratic otherwise and only changed afterward, which was my main caveat about the vote for not-Clinton=Vote for Trump thing.

edited 18th Mar '17 4:50:47 PM by sgamer82

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#178499: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:54:36 PM

The Electronic Frontier Foundation, among the ACLU and 45 others are going against a California bill that would strip the privacy protections of teachers and students.

Speaking of which, I am curious about your opinions on the former organization.

edited 18th Mar '17 4:55:02 PM by MorningStar1337

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#178500: Mar 18th 2017 at 4:56:33 PM

That time when one cannot afford to ignore politics has always been here, but now it's crunch time. And there is no high and holy "neutrality option." Either one will act, or one will watch from the sidelines and gaze proudly at hir clean hands—which helped no one—while waiting for heroes on white horses who'll never appear.
"The world is burning, but I'm innocent, because while I didn't check off a freakin name to stop it, that woman isn't the true savior" is a damaging note  sentiment. And a disturbing sign, that these times, deadly for many people at home and abroad and degrading and painful for a multitude of others, aren't being taken seriously.

Anyway, an exploration of the USA's "DNA" Steve King, John Lewis, and the American gene pool

A review of the fundamentals is always worthwhile. For that reason alone, we are all indebted to U.S. Rep. Steve King of Iowa.note 

edited 18th Mar '17 5:04:59 PM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives

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