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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#178226: Mar 16th 2017 at 4:14:41 PM

[up][up]That's a given. But that reason in particularly is just petty. I don't think Deviantart is more important than human rights or goddamn NATO.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#178227: Mar 16th 2017 at 4:25:00 PM

The idea of "fandom" vs Goverment is patently ridiculous. The idea that there ought to be a relaxation on copyright laws didn't set anyone any more against the government than it already was. And "fandom" includes moderates and liberals as much as it does alt-right types, so using it as a measure of a group that organizes for political movement is foolish as best.

Also, really, anyone who voted for Trump based on their desire to protect fanwork was a fucking moron, even more so than usual. And yet somehow I doubt that anyone actually voted specifically for him for that specific issue. You're making a GIGANTIC FUCKING LEAP here with literally nothing to back that theory up.

Trump basically trashed the TPP by saying it took American jobs, and not on the basis of copyright, appealing to good old fashioned racism and economic fear rather than "My anime waifu!" bullshit.

edited 16th Mar '17 4:28:22 PM by AceofSpades

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#178228: Mar 16th 2017 at 4:27:50 PM

Trump's Budget is published

on a related note 22 republicans are apparently poised to stop the health care bill.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#178229: Mar 16th 2017 at 4:36:32 PM

Hannity once pulled a gun on Jaun Willaims on set

No amount of "WHAT THE FUCK" can properly describe my reaction

edited 16th Mar '17 4:37:06 PM by NoName999

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#178230: Mar 16th 2017 at 4:44:18 PM

I legitimately think Hannity is insane.

New Survey coming this weekend!
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#178231: Mar 16th 2017 at 4:46:04 PM

I mean, he has a veneer of sanity but the more you look into him....he sounds worse than Beck.

edited 16th Mar '17 4:46:35 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#178232: Mar 16th 2017 at 4:54:29 PM

So we got, corrupt, argumentative and hypocritical. Sounds like a Fox news reporter all right

Trump responded to the travel ban block.

3 Irish musicians declined offer to preform at the white house

and Trump advisor Flynn got paid by Russian-related entities

edited 16th Mar '17 4:54:58 PM by MorningStar1337

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#178233: Mar 16th 2017 at 5:06:24 PM

Two questions: Why is Hannity armed ON SET, and why does Juan Williams stay at Faux News?

Do not obey in advance.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#178234: Mar 16th 2017 at 5:12:22 PM

[up] Conservatives are armed as a matter of principle and paranoia?

Not sure if this is new or not to folks here but it popped up on my newsfeed so thought I'd share:

http://ktvl.com/news/local/oregon-lawmakers-debate-bill-that-could-affect-electoral-college

MEDFORD — Oregon lawmakers consider a bill that would impact the state's electoral voters.

House Bill 2731 is an inter-state agreement that would require electors to vote for the presidential candidate that wins the popular vote. This is something the legislature has voted on before, but local political experts said there are constitutional challenges.

"No state shall enter into an agreement with another state without the approval of congress. Well this national popular vote project is an interstate compact," said Michael Torguson with Rogue Community College.

This agreement would not go into effect unless 271 electors are on board.

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#178235: Mar 16th 2017 at 5:25:33 PM

@sgamer82: We have discussed the popular vote initiative before-there is a website tracking which states have already signed on. Because it goes by electors, the initiative has to somehow flip either Texas or half the solid Red states, in addition to several purple ones to bring it online.

edited 16th Mar '17 5:26:23 PM by ViperMagnum357

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#178236: Mar 16th 2017 at 5:35:36 PM

[up]Well, gotta start somewhere, in any case. Who knows, maybe stuff like this will keep the idea in the news more often and thus in the discussion.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#178237: Mar 16th 2017 at 5:42:38 PM

[up][up]I mostly just wasn't sure if Oregon was already part of that initiative so figured I'd share it

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178238: Mar 16th 2017 at 6:22:19 PM

Concerning whether TPP's copyright stuff had any significant impact on the election...

Frankly, anyone who didn't vote for HRC solely based on this — never mind that she promised not to support TPP — is an idiot with Skewed Priorities. Especially since Trump being in favor of dismantling net neutrality would be far, far worse.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#178240: Mar 16th 2017 at 6:31:26 PM

[up][up] The government and big corporations, both Republican and Democrat, have been trying to control internet access and content since the internet became mainstream in the Early 2000's anyways. Remember the PATRIOT Act? At least having someone who is actually competent and intelligent would probably make the restrictions more lenient and less idiotic/greedy and annoying to have to work around. Not to mention right-wing populists tend to be in favor of censored/restricted internet to begin with, too. China, Russia and Turkey's internet restrictions should have showed people that, as well as the UK's recent internet laws. Why did they think Trump would be any different?

edited 16th Mar '17 7:00:25 PM by Bat178

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178241: Mar 16th 2017 at 6:53:13 PM

[up]

Why did they think Trump would be any different?

But he's an "outsider". He's anti-establishment!

Disgusted, but not surprised
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#178242: Mar 16th 2017 at 7:02:42 PM

I actually wonder if Trump is just naturally good at conning people or if it was something someone else taught him. If he managed to get this far, I think it's pretty fair to say he's damn good at it.

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#178243: Mar 16th 2017 at 7:05:19 PM

[up] More like he got help from Russia (Who are the kings of cons just after Nigeria) and rogue FBI agents.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178244: Mar 16th 2017 at 7:14:23 PM

[up][up] Look up Roy Cohn some time. He was something of an Evil Mentor to Trump apparently. Though Fred Trump Sr. was also a piece of work.

Disgusted, but not surprised
JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#178245: Mar 16th 2017 at 7:39:46 PM

[up]Fred Trump was pretty monstrous morally, but he was trustworthy- well, the big banks and investors were willing to give him money. Donald's earliest deals came from his daddy, just like his million-dollar loans. Once Fred was no longer looking over Donald's shoulder, the large investors quickly stopped giving Trump their money. So I don't think Trump learned how to grift from Fred- only that if you want money, you need to find someone dumber than you are.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#178246: Mar 16th 2017 at 7:47:02 PM

Yeah, indications are that if you made a deal with Fred Trump, he would usually try to stick to it. Because that makes people more willing to deal with you in the future, which makes it easier to learn about deals and to find people willing to partner with you.

Donald Trump's just cheap and completely lacks the concept of loyalty to anyone but himself.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178247: Mar 16th 2017 at 7:54:32 PM

[up] Fred Trump Sr. was a pretty shitty human being — which almost certainly contributed to Donald's terrible personality — but apparently he was at least a competent and pragmatic businessman who understood the importance of trust between partners.

Fred Sr. being a terrible person and father can't be understated though — by all accounts he drove his older son Fred Jr. to drink himself to death.

edited 16th Mar '17 7:57:47 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#178248: Mar 16th 2017 at 8:09:28 PM

He should've never gave Donnie that "low" million-dollar loan.

New Survey coming this weekend!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178249: Mar 16th 2017 at 8:23:26 PM

[up] That was far from the only time Fred Sr. bailed out Donny too. Every time Donald fucked up with his money, his daddy would save his ass.

Disgusted, but not surprised
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#178250: Mar 16th 2017 at 8:31:08 PM

[up]And then daddy died. So now Donny's got no-one left to save his ass. Because you can bet his ass will need saving.tongue


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