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#178201: Mar 16th 2017 at 11:41:42 AM

[up][awesome]

Exactly this. They don't need critical thinking skills or evidence-based reasoning when they are surrounded on all sides by people who believe exactly as they do, and reinforce each others' beliefs constantly.

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#178202: Mar 16th 2017 at 11:57:45 AM

[up], [up][up] This might be tied to the CNBC "Big Data" article posted earlier. As well as social media facilitating this.

edited 16th Mar '17 11:58:14 AM by MorningStar1337

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#178203: Mar 16th 2017 at 12:11:05 PM

[up][up][up] Maybe because of that, my old man thinks that all general Americans are self-serving racists.

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#178204: Mar 16th 2017 at 12:16:35 PM

Actually, I would go much farther than that. Republican voters have been the target of a systematic and well funded propaganda campaign undertaken by the best media experts money can buy, for two generations now. The Democratic party did very little to counter this, until very recently.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#178205: Mar 16th 2017 at 12:23:19 PM

There was nothing the Democrats could do. Their coalition and voting base is too broad, too diverse. The undertaking of a Fox News Left, even if it started RIGHT AFTER the 96' election, would've been five times expensive and a damn near herculean effort to get anywhere near the same results.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#178207: Mar 16th 2017 at 1:31:41 PM

Wow, the name of the Daily Show segment on Trump/Ryandontcare is blunt and to the point. [awesome]

I heard that the Trump budget guts legal funds for veterans and domestic abuse survivors? Once again, the guy who cares so much about vets.

edited 16th Mar '17 1:55:34 PM by BearyScary

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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#178208: Mar 16th 2017 at 1:35:16 PM

[up][up] I posted that yesterday, actually (the 2nd Poll).

edited 16th Mar '17 1:35:32 PM by DingoWalley1

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#178209: Mar 16th 2017 at 2:12:08 PM

[up][up][up]God, to these people, Hillary can't even retire and live quietly in a way they like.

Who the fuck needs an approval rating for being a grandmother?

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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#178210: Mar 16th 2017 at 2:21:06 PM

[up]Someone with terminal Clinton Derangement Syndrome or an insatiable need to pretend that HUAC had no influence on American society whatsoever?

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
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A procrastination in of itself
#178211: Mar 16th 2017 at 2:23:29 PM

Yeah I don't understand why people are even polling approval ratings for Clinton, it make no sense.

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#178212: Mar 16th 2017 at 2:31:06 PM

Trump may have leaked classified information in a Fox News Interview according to Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.). Specifically, about how the CIA was hacked under Obama's administration, not his administration, which is not confirmed to be true.

Still begging for that wrist slap, everyone, just thought I should let you all know that...

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#178213: Mar 16th 2017 at 2:31:37 PM

[up][up][up] Nah. Those types of people don't pretend that the HUAC had no impact on American society.

They genuinely think and loudly proclaim to anyone with functional ears that it saved America from the Dirty Commies and that it should never, ever have been stopped.

edited 16th Mar '17 2:33:15 PM by TrashJack

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#178214: Mar 16th 2017 at 2:34:04 PM

[up][up] Trump can't leak classified information, the former head of the CIA was on Colbert a bit back and explained that Trump has ultimate authority to declassify things, so if Trump publically shares a classified fact it automatically stops being classified, it's an actual genuine case of "if the president does it it's not illegal".

edited 16th Mar '17 2:34:16 PM by Silasw

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#178215: Mar 16th 2017 at 2:44:18 PM

I have a question. What do you think of the reaction to SOPA and PIPA bills, symbolized as an attack on fandom and the internet by the government (among other things), and used as a comparison to the international ACTA and TPP proposals and (using the TPP as a proxy) the upcoming NAFTA rewrites, nowadays?

edited 16th Mar '17 2:47:11 PM by MorningStar1337

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#178216: Mar 16th 2017 at 2:47:23 PM

I think that it's the least of our worries. I can't really give a damn about the internet when the white house is full of Russian assets, our president is a rapist and our VP wants to see every LGBT kid be shocked until they pretend to be straight.

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#178217: Mar 16th 2017 at 2:51:23 PM

[up][up][up]Next thing you know, Trump will be tweeting: "The nuclear code is 1-2-3-4-5! That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!"

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#178218: Mar 16th 2017 at 2:52:52 PM

[up][up] I'm asking because. As much as I hate to admit it. I think it might be a factor in, if not the cause of our worries.

edited 16th Mar '17 2:54:12 PM by MorningStar1337

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#178219: Mar 16th 2017 at 2:53:46 PM

[up]x4 That every year it becomes more obvious that we need a global consensus on "internet laws" in the style of the Outer Space Treaty or the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, maybe with a relaxation of copyright laws. Preferably with input by people who live off generating content on the internet.

[up]How?

edited 16th Mar '17 2:55:24 PM by IFwanderer

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#178220: Mar 16th 2017 at 3:11:27 PM

[up][up]

....You cannot possibly be serious.

What?!

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#178221: Mar 16th 2017 at 3:56:56 PM

He might be talking about the Internet's importance in organization of movements (either indivisible or alt-right and from occupy to the spring), and its very important impact on discourse, given the disturbing effectiveness of hoaxes ("pizzagate" and other stories worthy of the National Inquirer). Not to mention everyone's personal information passing through the place and getting hacked with ever more impressive ways. (From the Target data breach to the DNC and more).
And any international agreement over the internet will probably be more sensitive than sea and space law.
I still don't know if the Internet's priority number one though, and I surely don't want Trump Bannon in charge of negotiating its future.

[down]Nevermind, but I'll leave this, because...

edited 16th Mar '17 3:59:48 PM by CenturyEye

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#178222: Mar 16th 2017 at 3:57:47 PM

[up][up], [up][up][up] I'm not certain. And I hope that it is just paranoia. But I have a theory that the reaction to SOPA and PIPA may had caused a spark. A spark of tribalism not among party lines, but a case of fandom vs. Government. And that the result caused a desire to defend fandom from all threats of censorship, because government noticed that what their mere existence (or rather the existence of their labors) are in a legal gray area and were trying to fix that by moving it to the black. The attempt to pass SOPA failed. But the idea that Fandom and the internet must be defended at all costs remains.

An example would be Donald Trump and his relationship to the TPP. Mainly that he spoke out against for reasons that were irrelevant to the above paragraph. But (and my knowledge is incomplete on this) but I think that some people voted for Trump because they knew he was against the TPP, which was compared to SOPA and thus had to be stopped at all costs. And Bernie Sanders, the other viable candidate that spoke against it, lost the primaries. Meaning that to those that think the right to fanwork and fanart was to be protected, their best bet would be Donald Trump.

[up] That too is also as much a part of it as Trump's anti-TPP sentiments

edited 16th Mar '17 3:59:00 PM by MorningStar1337

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#178223: Mar 16th 2017 at 4:02:39 PM

If anyone actually voted for Trump (or voted 3rd party instead of Clinton) because of that; fuck them.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#178224: Mar 16th 2017 at 4:09:58 PM

If anyone didn't vote for Clinton, period, fuck them.

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Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#178225: Mar 16th 2017 at 4:11:13 PM

[up][up][up]Well, it's an interesting lens to look at the election with, at least. Though it likely only applies to certain segments of younger voters, and even then probably ties into larger issues.

Of course, anyone who actually believed that he would reduce government surveillance, uphold Net Neutrality, or protect creative expression against corporate interests really, really, really didn't think that through.

edited 16th Mar '17 4:12:13 PM by Eschaton


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