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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Actually, I would go much farther than that. Republican voters have been the target of a systematic and well funded propaganda campaign undertaken by the best media experts money can buy, for two generations now. The Democratic party did very little to counter this, until very recently.
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.There was nothing the Democrats could do. Their coalition and voting base is too broad, too diverse. The undertaking of a Fox News Left, even if it started RIGHT AFTER the 96' election, would've been five times expensive and a damn near herculean effort to get anywhere near the same results.
New Survey coming this weekend!A poll came out last week showing that Trump's approval numbers are much higher than Hillary's.
Trump's at 45 % approval and Hillary is at 35 % approval.
Trump may have leaked classified information in a Fox News Interview according to Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.).
Specifically, about how the CIA was hacked under Obama's administration, not his administration, which is not confirmed to be true.
Still begging for that wrist slap, everyone, just thought I should let you all know that...
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Nah. Those types of people don't pretend that the HUAC had no impact on American society.
They genuinely think and loudly proclaim to anyone with functional ears that it saved America from the Dirty Commies and that it should never, ever have been stopped.
edited 16th Mar '17 2:33:15 PM by TrashJack
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary![]()
Trump can't leak classified information, the former head of the CIA was on Colbert a bit back and explained that Trump has ultimate authority to declassify things, so if Trump publically shares a classified fact it automatically stops being classified, it's an actual genuine case of "if the president does it it's not illegal".
edited 16th Mar '17 2:34:16 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI have a question. What do you think of the reaction to SOPA and PIPA bills, symbolized as an attack on fandom and the internet by the government (among other things), and used as a comparison to the international ACTA and TPP proposals and (using the TPP as a proxy) the upcoming NAFTA rewrites
, nowadays?
edited 16th Mar '17 2:47:11 PM by MorningStar1337
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Next thing you know, Trump will be tweeting: "The nuclear code is 1-2-3-4-5! That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!"
x4 That every year it becomes more obvious that we need a global consensus on "internet laws" in the style of the Outer Space Treaty
or the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea
, maybe with a relaxation of copyright laws. Preferably with input by people who live off generating content on the internet.
How?
edited 16th Mar '17 2:55:24 PM by IFwanderer
1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KVHe might be talking about the Internet's importance in organization of movements (either indivisible or alt-right and from occupy to the spring), and its very important impact on discourse, given the disturbing effectiveness of hoaxes ("pizzagate" and other stories worthy of the National Inquirer). Not to mention everyone's personal information passing through the place and getting hacked with ever more impressive ways. (From the Target data breach to the DNC and more).
And any international agreement over the internet will probably be more sensitive than sea and space law.
I still don't know if the Internet's priority number one though, and I surely don't want Trump Bannon in charge of negotiating its future.
Nevermind, but I'll leave this, because...
edited 16th Mar '17 3:59:48 PM by CenturyEye
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I'm not certain. And I hope that it is just paranoia. But I have a theory that the reaction to SOPA and PIPA may had caused a spark. A spark of tribalism not among party lines, but a case of fandom vs. Government. And that the result caused a desire to defend fandom from all threats of censorship, because government noticed that what their mere existence (or rather the existence of their labors) are in a legal gray area and were trying to fix that by moving it to the black. The attempt to pass SOPA failed. But the idea that Fandom and the internet must be defended at all costs remains.
An example would be Donald Trump and his relationship to the TPP. Mainly that he spoke out against for reasons that were irrelevant to the above paragraph. But (and my knowledge is incomplete on this) but I think that some people voted for Trump because they knew he was against the TPP, which was compared to SOPA and thus had to be stopped at all costs. And Bernie Sanders, the other viable candidate that spoke against it, lost the primaries. Meaning that to those that think the right to fanwork and fanart was to be protected, their best bet would be Donald Trump.
That too is also as much a part of it as Trump's anti-TPP sentiments
edited 16th Mar '17 3:59:00 PM by MorningStar1337
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Well, it's an interesting lens to look at the election with, at least. Though it likely only applies to certain segments of younger voters, and even then probably ties into larger issues.
Of course, anyone who actually believed that he would reduce government surveillance, uphold Net Neutrality, or protect creative expression against corporate interests really, really, really didn't think that through.
edited 16th Mar '17 4:12:13 PM by Eschaton

Exactly this. They don't need critical thinking skills or evidence-based reasoning when they are surrounded on all sides by people who believe exactly as they do, and reinforce each others' beliefs constantly.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"