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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#178076: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:02:23 PM

[up][up]It means when you listen to Trump talk, you hear what you want to hear.

edited 15th Mar '17 3:02:31 PM by nightwyrm_zero

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#178077: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:02:26 PM

It's a bad joke that requires you to skewer your knowledge of American English grammar in order to understand it.

[down]McCain does all this talking that makes him sound like he's not a part of the rest of the GOP scum, but has he yet to act on any of this?

edited 15th Mar '17 3:03:43 PM by danime91

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#178078: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:02:27 PM

So...John Mc Cain is accusing Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky of working with Putin.

Seriously

Makes you wonder about his "Republicans should never investigate other Republicans" comment...

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#178079: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:02:52 PM

Talking is easy.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#178080: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:04:50 PM

McCain's proven that often enough lately

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#178081: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:06:30 PM

[up][up][up] ... They're eating each other alive at this point.

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#178082: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:07:31 PM

I still don't understand what that's supposed to mean...

Something like, you're taking his words too literally, but at the same time dismissing him as a threat/believing that what he says has less support and appeal than it really does. Originally came about during the election, and not from a supporter, but from old school conservatives sitting on the sideline, iirc.

Of course, the same people who say we shouldn't take him literally and he doesn't mean what he says literally are also the ones who say they like him because he tells it like it is and is a straight shooter, so what do I know?

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#178083: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:08:02 PM

It's like "you're not supposed to take him literally!"

But I thought he was supposed to tell it like it is!

edited 15th Mar '17 3:08:31 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#178084: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:10:07 PM

The amount of double-think Trump's supporters have to come up with to defend his double-talk is staggering.

At this point I'm thinking that the people who voted for Trump who aren't misogynistic white supremacists have fallen into the Sunk-Cost Fallacy. "Hey, I voted for Trump, but he's turning out to be terrible and not accomplishing any of the things he's promised! But if I admit that now, I'll just look stupid for believing him! So I gotta keep supporting him and hope he turns things around next month, or next year, or the year after..." and meanwhile the hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

edited 15th Mar '17 3:12:35 PM by danime91

IrishZombie Since: Dec, 2009
#178085: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:12:03 PM

The only way I can see that sentence working is in response to someone getting Sidetracked by the Analogy, which I somehow doubt is the case here.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#178086: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:18:44 PM

Most people didnt actually vote for Trump, they voted against the Washington DC establishment, whom they do not trust. It's only necessary to believe that Trump is doing their interests (white middle class) less damage than the Washington elites do. Not saying I agree with them, just explainin'.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#178087: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:19:51 PM

I still don't understand what that's supposed to mean...
The Obama wiretapping conspiracy is a good example, and the most recent: He left it to his goons to spin "wiretapping" as a metaphor for broader government surveillance against him, something to be taken "seriously."

But not "literally," since there is no evidence for that, only for whatever prompted this whole debacle (something to do with FISA and Russia), which again does not actually support the claim of literal wiretapping.

The same thing has happened before, as when he spouted off about Obama founding ISIS. However, when explicitly given the opportunity to say he didn't mean it literally, he rejected it and dug himself deeper.

And now that he's president, and accusing his predecessor of committing a criminal act, government agencies are apparently obligated to take his conspiracies literally. And I don't doubt for a second that he is stupid and paranoid enough to personally believe that Obama is literally conspiring against him.

edited 15th Mar '17 4:58:44 PM by Eschaton

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#178088: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:22:23 PM

[up]Makes me wonder if the conspiracy theorists had a conspiracy theory for a conspiracy theorist becoming President. Who would they place the blame on? The Freemasons? Jews? Underground lizardmen?

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#178089: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:41:37 PM

That kind of conspiracy theorist tends to view themselves as the Only Sane Man. They would think that it was great that a conspiracy theorist became president. I knew someone like that, and he thought Kennedy was the best president...because he was trying to expose the Illuminati and was assassinated for it.

The problem is that Trump makes up conspiracy theories left and right without any ability to connect them together. This is the same guy who said that the leaks were real but the news reporting on the existence of the leaks was fake.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#178090: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:49:15 PM

Yeah. Alex Jones, who is like the "king" of conspiracy theorists is Trump's buddy and an informal adviser.

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#178091: Mar 15th 2017 at 3:50:51 PM

[up]Well, that's somewhat worrisome. And certainly explains where Trump keeps getting these crazy conspiracy theories from.

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#178093: Mar 15th 2017 at 4:21:38 PM

There's a rather amusing overlap between conspiracy theorists and radical ideologies (that tend to conspire a lot).

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#178094: Mar 15th 2017 at 4:26:28 PM

I don't know that that's amusing so much as what happens when two things have a large overlapping audience. For one thing, you have to be deep into an ideology to believe in conspiracy theories. I wouldn't imagine that dedicated theorists have much in the way of moderate political views.

Edit: So it turns out that Trump isn't really taking advantage of supposed good press coming from his tax form leak, and is instead complaining about it. This according to this David Kay Johnston guy (I think that's his name I'm watching TV right now) puts some doubt on the idea that Trump leaked this himself to generate good press, and that this is a genuine leak somewhere in the line.

edited 15th Mar '17 4:28:46 PM by AceofSpades

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#178095: Mar 15th 2017 at 4:50:40 PM

Trump's Approval Rating is now the lowest it's been on Rasmussen: 47% Approval, 53% Disapproval. Even Conservatives are getting tired of him!

[down] It is important to know, however, that Rasmussen is a Conservative leaning Poll, and was one of the few Polls to have had Trump above 50% for more then a week. The fact that his Approval rating is starting to drop there is a sign that soon everyone will be hating him worse then Moderates and Liberals hated Bush during his 2nd Term!

edited 15th Mar '17 4:55:16 PM by DingoWalley1

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#178096: Mar 15th 2017 at 4:52:02 PM

47% is still way too high for my liking. That's still little less than half the country - or the results of that survey at least.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#178098: Mar 15th 2017 at 5:14:51 PM

Props to Schumers response, at least.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#178099: Mar 15th 2017 at 5:38:26 PM

Though really 'repair vs. replace' strikes me as an issue of semantics being used as a front for partisanship in a way that both parties are guilty of.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#178100: Mar 15th 2017 at 5:42:56 PM

There is partisanship, but one side wants to expand healthcare coverage and one side is trying to take it away. The ACA has problems, but it's nothing that can't be fixed- indeed, both Obama and Clinton have said that the ACA is just a first step. Destroying it is just disastrous for Americans.


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