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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#178001: Mar 14th 2017 at 6:08:54 PM

[up] Okay, something serious is going on now if all those departments are having these press conferences...

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#178002: Mar 14th 2017 at 6:12:00 PM

And at this hour to.

EDIT: Nevermind, read that as PM.

CNN is reporting that the WH is releasing some tax details, from 2005. An obvious attempt to preempt Maddow.

edited 14th Mar '17 6:13:47 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
justhelping Since: Dec, 2016
#178003: Mar 14th 2017 at 6:15:12 PM

What do you guys think of Gen Z growing up to be the most conservative in recent history?

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#178004: Mar 14th 2017 at 6:16:54 PM

There is something interesting about 2005: it was the year Trump married Melania. There was a lot of noise in the press at the time about how unusually conservative the expense of the wedding and reception was, but he did have a ballroom made from scratch for the wedding (guess what colour it was decorated with).

Also, one of his most prominent wedding guests was Conrad Black, who was toxic at the time because of swindling charges against him.... yet he was cosying up to Trump at the wedding. That got a lot of press at the time, too.

So, yeah, it could turn out to be completely boring and not show off much... but it was an interesting year at the time.

edited 14th Mar '17 6:18:15 PM by Wyldchyld

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#178005: Mar 14th 2017 at 6:17:02 PM

[up][up]Based on bad data from an unscientific poll.

edited 14th Mar '17 6:17:10 PM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#178006: Mar 14th 2017 at 6:21:44 PM

[up][up][up]Do you have some sort of quota to meet?

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#178007: Mar 14th 2017 at 6:49:26 PM

[up][up][up][up]Nothing at all? Most of Gen Z is still teenaged. Honestly, an article asserting the fiscal conservatism of fifteen-year olds deserves to be laughed at.

Your obsession with this topic is irritating, though.

edited 14th Mar '17 6:50:23 PM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#178008: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:02:11 PM

[up]And, again, it's based on some shoddy quiz by a shitty advertising company, designed in a similar way to a push poll.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#178009: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:02:20 PM

Looks like the actual tax returns were just the basics like always on a 1040.

There was also a clear CLIENT COPY watermark on the paperwork. Trump could've easily leaked it himself.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#178010: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:09:23 PM

[up][up]Every single mention of that poll is from r/The_Donald.

Has Justhelping inadvertently outed himself as a Trumpist?

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#178011: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:12:52 PM

I just knew Maddow was pulling a ratings stunt....

I doubt anything serious will come from that press conference tomorrow either.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178012: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:14:04 PM

[up][up] Considering the last post they made here was calling everyone on this thread fanatical Democrats — never mind that not everyone who posts here is even a US citizen — while praising Trump's speech...

edited 14th Mar '17 7:14:35 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#178013: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:14:09 PM

Yeah, I'm hearing that the Tax Returns of 2005 is a whole load of nothing, and that Rachael Maddow might've been trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill (I didn't actually watch the report, though).

Seems to me that, until we get a tax return from 2014+, we're not gonna find anything incriminating, and even then there sadly might not be anything there...

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#178014: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:15:31 PM

[up][up][up][up]Usually they start harassing people by PM instead of trying to derail the topic with the discussion of incredibly inane matters.

Take. tl;dr: Forcing the WH to release Trump's tax returns for 2005 has weakened their stance on not releasing any of them, ever.

edited 14th Mar '17 7:16:25 PM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#178015: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:32:32 PM

So Maddow is playing a long game?

Do not obey in advance.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#178016: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:35:48 PM

Or Trump leaked them himself, hoping someone would take the bait, and then he'd make move to discredit their findings as "nothing."

New Survey coming this weekend!
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#178017: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:36:00 PM

I think she intends to. Of course, Trump has never really required justification to do anything.

[up]This as well. And Trump will probably be more successful at his goal, since smearing the media is intensely proximal.

edited 14th Mar '17 7:37:00 PM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#178018: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:40:20 PM

Would Maddow make a big deal about this unless there was some kind of damaging info inside them?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#178019: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:45:47 PM

She likes ratings, like any other reporter.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#178020: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:47:39 PM

Report: The press briefing tomorrow by the Justice Department is specifically over the Yahoo hackings.

U.S. officials are planning to unveil charges Wednesday related to the theft of personal data that affected hundreds of millions of Yahoo Inc. users and disrupted the company's sale to Verizon Communications Inc., according to people familiar with the matter.

At least some of the alleged hackers have ties to the Russian government, said the people, who added the national security division of the Justice Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation plan to announce the charges Wednesday morning.

In September, Yahoo revealed hackers penetrated its network in late 2014 and stole personal data on more than 500 million users. The company concluded that it had been breached by "a state-sponsored actor." The 2014 incident was separate from another, much-larger theft, affecting more than a billion accounts, that Yahoo disclosed in December and that dated back to 2013.

It is unclear if the charges are related to one or both of the breaches. The Russian embassy in Washington didn't immediately return a request for comment.

Earlier Tuesday, Bloomberg reported the Justice Department plans to accuse four people of participating in the security breaches, including one person in Canada and three people in Russia.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178021: Mar 14th 2017 at 8:06:38 PM

Okay, so far...

Trump has failed to get Mexico to pay for the wall and is apparently going to screw over the security we already have (Coast Guard and airport security) to help pay for it.

Trump has failed to provide a better health care system — the AHCA is utter shit.

Trump has done nothing to actually improve the economy or job market — we're still reaping the benefits of the Obama administration. Trump is in fact hurting the economy by discouraging tourists from visiting the USA.

Trump has wasted millions of taxpayer dollars to go on vacations and on providing extra security for his wife in Trump Tower, and has already spent over a tenth of what Obama's vacations cost taxpayers. It's been less than two months.

...I just re-read that last sentence I typed. It's only been two months since this clusterfuck started. Ugh.

edited 14th Mar '17 8:08:17 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#178022: Mar 14th 2017 at 8:09:38 PM

Even if Trump was a respectable and well-intentioned president I wouldn't expect him to be able to make improvements to the country's economy right away....BUT the fact that he's already hurting the US tourism industry with his reactionary administration is already quite damning because it's only going to get worse from here on out.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#178023: Mar 14th 2017 at 8:12:41 PM

[up] I wouldn't have brought that up as a point against him if he and his fans weren't trying to claim credit for the economy doing okay now.

Disgusted, but not surprised
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#178024: Mar 14th 2017 at 8:55:44 PM

What do you guys think of Gen Z growing up to be the most conservative in recent history,

Doesn't mean anything even if we're accurate since it's 15 year olds and it doesn't even poll the whole generation.

And many of us were conservative when were 15.

I identified with Republicans because my dad was Republican when I was 15. Bush turned me into an Independent, college turned me into a Democrat and the primaries and this wgeneral wlextion turned me into n actual left winger.


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