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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#177976: Mar 14th 2017 at 3:00:22 PM

Alguien habla con sentido.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#177977: Mar 14th 2017 at 3:15:47 PM

El Espanol mexicano es superior no el Espanol argentino. Pelea conmigo si es mentiras!

(American keyboard doesn't let me put down accents)

edited 14th Mar '17 3:16:11 PM by MadSkillz

vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#177978: Mar 14th 2017 at 3:24:55 PM

The mexican spanish is superior not the argentinian spanish.

Quieres decir: El español mexicano es superior, no el argentino.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#177979: Mar 14th 2017 at 3:27:47 PM

[up]x2 Las pelotas, tal como Argentina es la mejor nación hispanoparlante, el español rioplatense es la mejor variedad de español, o por lo menos, tenemos al mejor escritor de la lengua española. Now seriously, all dialects are as good or bad as each other.

[up]x5 I guess it could be. It would explain why nobody has it translated that way

edited 14th Mar '17 3:28:47 PM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#177980: Mar 14th 2017 at 3:37:54 PM

Um... back to US politics, not Central/South American linguistics please? Anyway, GOP seems to be backpedaling a bit on all their claims about the new healthcare bill, apparently because people are starting to catch on that it is absolutely horrible. Will their support base notice and call them out on it, or will they just accept it like they've accepted everything else so far?

edited 14th Mar '17 3:38:07 PM by danime91

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#177981: Mar 14th 2017 at 3:40:14 PM

[up]The Emperor will realize that he's got no clothes on when he begins to suffer severe sunburn and/or frostbite...

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#177982: Mar 14th 2017 at 3:47:46 PM

While it's likely the bill will fail now, it's not entirely impossible for it to pass. In any case, Ryan in the GOP aren't any more likely to give it up than they were when Obama was in office. They'll go back to the drawing board. And in the end, they may well have to take the path Boehner suggested; dress it up with conservative wording and leave it as is.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#177983: Mar 14th 2017 at 3:48:31 PM

So I just did my regular check on what's what for 2018 and it turns out that Orrin Hatch is running for reelection in Utah, which is a bit surprising due to him having pledged in 2012 to not run in 2018, with a poll from the end of last year having 71% of voters wanting him to retire and only 19% wanting him to run again.

I continue to have my fingers crossed for Mc Mullin to run and take the seat.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#177984: Mar 14th 2017 at 3:53:48 PM

[up]Or better (but impossible, this being Utah), a Dem takes it.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#177985: Mar 14th 2017 at 3:56:22 PM

If Hatch loses then who becomes the Pro Tempore of the Senate? That person could wind up being President if things blow up on the Republicans.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#177986: Mar 14th 2017 at 4:21:52 PM

Why Liberals would be Foolish to Try and Primary Joe Manchin

Eight years ago, Rep. Mike Castle of Delaware was headed to the U.S. Senate. Joe Biden had left his seat open upon ascending to the vice presidency, and Castle, a Republican, appeared to be in the perfect position to take it. Delaware is a solidly blue state, but Castle had built a moderate record, was well-liked and held an early lead over his three potential Democratic opponents. His only problem: That moderate record cut both ways. By September 2010, the tea party wave was cresting and Castle got swallowed up. He lost the Republican primary to tea partier Christine O’Donnell. Two months later, O’Donnell lost the general election by 17 points, and Republicans failed to win a majority in the Senate.

West Virginia leans heavily Republican on the federal level. Trump won it by 42 percentage points in 2016. Republican Shelley Moore Capito easily dispatched — by 28 percentage points — Democrat Natalie Tennant in the 2014 U.S. Senate race — the last Senate race in West Virginia with a Democrat not named Manchin on the ballot. Tennant, who was the secretary of state, was deemed a “top recruit.” But she performed about as you’d expect for a non-incumbent Democrat running for the Senate from West Virginia.

and the big takeaway

ll told, the chance of a non-incumbent Democrat winning a Senate seat in West Virginia in 2018 is probably somewhere between 1 percent and 2 percent.

But, Justice Democrats TOTES know what's best for our country and Dems, amirite?

New Survey coming this weekend!
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#177987: Mar 14th 2017 at 4:24:36 PM

What's this that I hear about Trump giving the CIA "new authority to conduct drone strikes against suspected terrorists"? I thought he and they hated each other's guts and were unofficially in a cold war (with the CIA being suspected of having direct or indirect involvement in at least some of the anti-Trump White House leaks).

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#177988: Mar 14th 2017 at 4:46:23 PM

I think the Trump regime is counting on being able to purge the CIA and fill it with yes-men.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#177989: Mar 14th 2017 at 4:51:36 PM

Trump may hate the CIA but he's also the guy who said we should just "bomb the hell out of them" in regards to Iraq, so I'll be very much not surprised if this turns out to be true. This is pretty goddamned consistent with his horrible, horrible attitude towards foreign relations.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#177990: Mar 14th 2017 at 4:53:16 PM

Steve King: Blacks and Hispanics 'will be fighting each other' before overtaking whites in population

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/14/politics/kfile-steve-king-prediction/index.html

Credit for sticking to his guns, I guess?

Mr "We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies." is doubling down on his prior comments.

"Jorge Ramos' stock in trade is identifying and trying to drive wedges between race," King told Iowa radio host Jan Mickelson on 1040 WHO. "Race and ethnicity, I should say to be more correct. When you start accentuating the differences, then you start ending up with people that are at each other's throats. And he's adding up Hispanics and blacks into what he predicts will be in greater number than whites in America. I will predict that Hispanics and the blacks will be fighting each other before that happens."

edited 14th Mar '17 4:53:29 PM by sgamer82

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#177991: Mar 14th 2017 at 4:54:55 PM

Um...has this been posted?

Rachel Maddow says they've got the Trump tax returns. And they're talking about them tonight at 9.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#177992: Mar 14th 2017 at 4:56:14 PM

Huh. Its not like Maddow to grandstand. Maybe she has serious shit on him.

edited 14th Mar '17 4:57:37 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#177993: Mar 14th 2017 at 4:56:20 PM

Oh god, I really hope she follows through on this.

[nja]

edited 14th Mar '17 4:56:33 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#177994: Mar 14th 2017 at 4:57:11 PM

Presumably she wouldn't announce it like this unless there was something notable in them. I wonder who handed them off to her.

edit: Is there a way to watch her show online right when it airs? I don't want to miss this.

edited 14th Mar '17 4:57:36 PM by Kostya

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#177995: Mar 14th 2017 at 5:40:03 PM

Maddow just clarified it's his 1040 from 2005.

Comey to go public on Russian probe.

edited 14th Mar '17 5:40:22 PM by tclittle

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#177996: Mar 14th 2017 at 5:43:58 PM

Just a single year? Doubt it will have any impact.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#177997: Mar 14th 2017 at 5:50:05 PM

[up] well, to quote someone from another board I follow politics on: "Whatever bullshit he did or didn't do back then is probably still the bullshit he is or isn't doing now."

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#177998: Mar 14th 2017 at 6:04:17 PM

For the benefit of the non-Americans, what is a 1040? I get that it's tax related, but given that she specified a code, I'm assuming there's different types of tax form?

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#177999: Mar 14th 2017 at 6:05:58 PM

[up] it's the standard federal tax form. It comes in varying levels of detail depending on the complexity​ of that person's taxes. There are also state tax forms, but I forget their number offhand, or if they're the same across the board.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010

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