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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#177926: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:38:08 PM

Plus they are by no means that the kind of anti-establishment group you'd expect to be capable of causing an uprising if an election doesn't go their way.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177927: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:40:08 PM

[up]x4 Obama even pointed this out in one of his speeches last year. He brought up the sheer hypocrisy of Trump claiming to be against the so-called "global elites" since he's spent his entire life trying to be one of the global elites.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#177928: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:48:12 PM

[up] And of course, he will leave his supporters disillusioned once he commits actions that are associated with the elite

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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#177929: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:48:15 PM

Being a crass individual who appears in wrestling does wonders for self-identification.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#177930: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:52:05 PM

[up][up]He's never stopped doing that. They're not going to be disillusioned from him because of that.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177931: Mar 13th 2017 at 11:06:09 PM

Concerning Sanders and the Zika vaccine thing...

I'm with Angelus and Jovian on this one. Sanders sounds like someone who either isn't too sympathetic to the plight of people suffering from Zika and need a vaccine yesterday and/or someone who isn't sympathetic to an industry in which most of the money, time, and effort spent on R&D is likely to end up being All for Nothing. You can bet that if the USA were undergoing a severe Zika epidemic right now, he wouldn't have spouted this crap.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#177932: Mar 13th 2017 at 11:37:12 PM

He might well have proposed said socialized pharmaceutical R&D company, though.

Izeinsummer Since: Jun, 2013
#177933: Mar 14th 2017 at 6:33:45 AM

Private medical Rn D is kind of silly. One of the few things the government is consistently fairly efficient at is research.. and essentially *all* of the products of medical research are in the end purchased by governments. So.. Why, exactly are we not just short-circuting this whole industry and conducting pharma Rn D directly out of tax payer funds?

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#177934: Mar 14th 2017 at 6:53:22 AM

Because capitalism.

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#177935: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:46:02 AM

The government does fund a fair amount of what's usually referred to as "basic research" — ie, fundamental scientific stuff without any obvious application or marketability. But there's still a lot of work that has to be done between that and actually creating a viable product. You have to figure out how to produce the drug on a large scale, and you have to go through all sorts of clinical trials, FDA testing, etc.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#177936: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:49:21 AM

And now for the next edition of We ARE Struggling Together
Ossoff’s Democratic rivals vow he won’t get ‘coronation’ in Georgia Sixth

Jon Ossoff has soaked up the lion’s share of Democratic attention in the race for Georgia’s Sixth District...

Which is to say the other four Democrats in the April 18 special election are none too happy about what one calls the “coronation” of the 30-year-old former Congressional aide.

“This is not going to be a coronation. You have to earn it,” said former state Sen. Ron Slotin. “He stands no chance against a Republican in the runoff. And that’s what I’m letting people know. The party shouldn’t pick favorites.”

He and the other three lesser-known Democrats in the race gathered over the weekend at Andretti’s in Roswell with Ossoff for a forum sponsored by the Needles in a Hay Stack group to make the case why the party should rally around them.

Ragin Edwards, an east Cobb sales manager, told the crowd to give her a chance and “I promise I will make you proud.”

Rebecca Quigg, a physician, focused her pitch on safeguarding the Affordable Care Act. “We need a doctor in the House who cares about the patients, and who is knowledgeable about the law,” she said.

And Richard Keatley, a college professor from Tucker and U.S. Navy veteran, said he will be the “independent voice” who will not be beholden to special interests. “I’m used to being the odd man in the room,” he said. “I’m the first officer in a long line of sailors, and I know how to rock the boat.”

It was Slotin, though, with the sharpest attacks aimed at Ossoff.

He slammed the Democratic National Committee for pledging to pour resources into the race – ostensibly to help Ossoff – and assailed Daily Kos, the left-leaning website, for raising more than $1.1 million for Ossoff’s campaign. He called them Washington insiders “who don’t know anything about the district.”

Slotin also criticized Ossoff for “not having a business in the United States,” a reference to his London-based investigative film company. He was booed by crowdmembers when he asked Ossoff about a delay in filing financial disclosures; the campaign has requested extensions and is set to submit them this week.

A straw poll conducted after the question-and-answer session showed the audience of roughly 400 had picked a clear favorite.

About three-quarters of the votes went to Ossoff and Keatley received about 10 percent. Quigg, Slotin and Edwards split the remaining 16 percent of the vote. After the vote, the group endorsed Ossoff and said it would work to help him win the race, “ideally on the first ballot.”

If we lose the sixth, because an overwhelming Dem vote was split between too many candidates who were actively cutting each other down in the middle of a crisis...

Slotin, with all his experience should know this. If Ossoff "doesn't stand a chance" drop out and rally the whole base to one end, or at least don't give the GOP ammo in what's already Mission Impossible.

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#177937: Mar 14th 2017 at 7:50:01 AM

Because instead we blow taxpayers' dollars on our already overblown military budget. Imagine how much 54 million could do if used to fund medical research.

edited 14th Mar '17 7:50:08 AM by danime91

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#177938: Mar 14th 2017 at 8:23:37 AM

My real issue with what Sanders said was that he didn't want the government to help the pharmaceutical companies because it would somehow raise prices. If the government doesn't play a role in the research process, it's going to result in heightened prices as the companies try even harder to make a profit.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#177939: Mar 14th 2017 at 8:28:30 AM

"Somehow" being by way of a monopoly.

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#177940: Mar 14th 2017 at 8:59:22 AM

So, Pat McCrory is having a hard time finding a job over the Bathroom Bill

Former North Carolina Gov. Pat Mc Crory (R) says the state's controversial "bathroom law" has made it difficult for him to land a job after leaving office.

Mc Crory said in an interview with a World Radio podcast, according to the News & Observer, that the backlash following the law “has impacted me to this day, even after I left office. People are reluctant to hire me, because ‘oh my gosh, he’s a bigot’ — which is the last thing I am.”

He blamed liberal advocates who opposed the law, which requires that transgender people use the bathroom corresponding to their biological sex as identified on their birth certificate, for damaging his reputation.

“If you disagree with the politically correct thought police on this new definition of gender, you’re a bigot, you’re the worst of evil,” Mc Crory said. “It’s almost as if I broke a law.”

And here's the absolute SAVAGE Democratic response:

“North Carolina has already lost hundreds of millions of dollars in economic activity and thousands of jobs as a direct result of House Bill 2, but I guess we can start adding Gov. Mc Crory’s career to the total as well,” a spokesman said in a statement.

LAWD!

edited 14th Mar '17 8:59:38 AM by TacticalFox88

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177941: Mar 14th 2017 at 9:03:25 AM

[up] Too bad violins don't come in micrometer scale.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#177942: Mar 14th 2017 at 9:07:04 AM

[up][up]Oh, I feel for him
It seems actions do have consequences sometimes...

edited 14th Mar '17 9:07:43 AM by CenturyEye

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Antiteilchen In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. Since: Sep, 2013
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
#177943: Mar 14th 2017 at 9:08:43 AM

If you disagree with the politically correct thought police on this new definition of gender, you’re a bigot

So the guy wanting to police bathrooms rails against a "thought police". Lmao

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#177944: Mar 14th 2017 at 9:09:08 AM

Oh look, there's a tiny man on my tiny violin, playing an even smaller violin.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#177945: Mar 14th 2017 at 9:24:51 AM

[up] Probably with an orchestra of smaller violins playing with their molecule violins as well. tongue

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#177946: Mar 14th 2017 at 9:27:19 AM

Spiteception.

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Asgore Adopts Noelle
#177947: Mar 14th 2017 at 9:37:17 AM

Breitbart releases Audio of Paul Ryan, during the Election season, saying he would not defend Donald Trump, 'not now, not in the future'.

Obviously, Paul Ryan lied, but it's not so much that Ryan lied that's the issue. It's more concerning how hard Breitbart is trying to destroy fellow Republicans (Including Reince Priebus) simply because they may not have agreed 100% with Trump. This also further feeds into my idea that the Republican Party is tearing itself apart and that Trump really is the Swan Song for the party.

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i'm tired, my friend
#177948: Mar 14th 2017 at 9:43:18 AM

So basically a Hoist by Their Own Petard situation?

i'm tired, my friend
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#177949: Mar 14th 2017 at 9:48:22 AM

It may be just an internal coup attempt. If the GOP has transformed into an ethnic party, it'll be easy to keep unified compared to the diverse spectrum of Dems.
Doesn't mean it can govern...

Ga. Republicans in damage control mode on health care

WASHINGTON – Many Georgia Republicans scrambled to re-frame the health care conversation Monday on Capitol Hill after the release of a nonpartisan report that estimated that 24 million fewer people would be on the health insurance rolls by 2026 under GOP leaders’ Obamacare replacement plan compared to the current law.

Several Republican members of the state’s congressional delegation emphasized the more flattering aspects of the Congressional Budget Office’s analysis of the GOP’s American Health Care Act and ignored the uglier ones in a bid to keep the proposal afloat. Others sought to return the spotlight to rising premiums under the Affordable Care Act.

Others rushed to defend the embattled bill, which can only afford two GOP detractors in the Senate and about 20 in the House should Democrats stay unified against it.

“The CBO report confirms that President Trump’s plan will decrease the deficit and lower health insurance premiums, which is great news for Georgia families,” U.S. Rep. Tom Graves, R-Ranger, said in a statement.

“This bill is just the first step to creating patient-centered, market-driven health care that gives Americans the freedom to make their own health care decisions,” said U.S. Rep. Drew Ferguson, R-West Point. “People will be able to buy the coverage they want and need rather that an expensive, one-size-fits-all policy mandated by the government.”

Several argued that the CBO’s analysis did not take into account the GOP’s full health care plan, since it excluded leaders’ pledges to implement other policies at a later date, such as allowing insurance companies to sell plans across state lines.

A spokeswoman for Georgia Sen. Johnny Isakson said the three-term Republican was still reviewing the bill but that he is “committed to following through on our promise to repeal the irreparably flawed healthcare law known as Obamacare before the system implodes on its own.”

Meanwhile, Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price said the Trump administration “strenuously disagreed” with the CBO report.

It should be noted that the White House figures are worse.

edited 14th Mar '17 9:53:35 AM by CenturyEye

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Would that it were so simple.
#177950: Mar 14th 2017 at 9:49:35 AM

"If we lose the sixth, because an overwhelming Dem vote was split between too many candidates who were actively cutting each other down in the middle of a crisis...

Slotin, with all his experience should know this. If Ossoff "doesn't stand a chance" drop out and rally the whole base to one end, or at least don't give the GOP ammo in what's already Mission Impossible."

This is why the jungle primary is a crime against humanity.

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