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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#177776: Mar 12th 2017 at 9:29:31 AM

[up] I agree with you on that notion as well. Though me in particular always looks for the light at the end of tunnel, no matter how long it is.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#177777: Mar 12th 2017 at 9:33:51 AM

[up][up]we get that, is just that wanderer and myself noticed that people in this threat look somewhat shock at the idea a demagogue president could actually happen, like it was some imposibility that somehow happen and nobody can explain why, where we come from places were is pretty much the norm(I mean in argentina "I will fuck the previous administration" is pretty much a given while here in venezuela we are living the right fear of a super lefty goverment...which surprising dosent seen that diferent from GOP maddness) which make the US come as REALLY naive in politics right now.

But in my experience dealing with populist goverment with dreams of dictatorship you are doing great so far as the GOP have been unable to actually create a good plan(and they wont of course) and trump unstable behavior is costing the orange house more and more popularity each day, im impress in how people are behaving against Donald so far.

edited 12th Mar '17 9:36:10 AM by unknowing

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#177778: Mar 12th 2017 at 9:37:15 AM

It bears repeating, that for America, THIS IS NOT NORMAL. This is not something we've been taught to expect, and it's not something we've been trained to deal with before now. We have, in general, been taught to expect better than this of our government. Individual experience, of course, varies. But part of why resistance has been so strong is it's been built into our culture and to a limited extent our institutions.

Everyone here takes their personal right to free speech very seriously. It's been famously abused lately, but it's coming in handy right now.

edited 12th Mar '17 9:39:16 AM by AceofSpades

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#177779: Mar 12th 2017 at 9:44:42 AM

@unknowing:

You know, dont like to said this because it make me sound as asshole

You shouldn't feel like that. The perspective for someone who's lived through worse than Trump is a valuable one right now.

edited 12th Mar '17 9:45:55 AM by Gilphon

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#177780: Mar 12th 2017 at 9:47:30 AM

In the 6th, Slotin is basing his run off his experience and his ladder-climbing..but that didn't work for Clinton. Plus the political effect of fresh faces and the change..any change..attitude in the air.
Would it be a good idea to devote as much effort to calling Slotin supporters and the man himself to try and get him to drop the race, rather than split the vote?

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#177781: Mar 12th 2017 at 9:49:20 AM

If only Ossof is making the double digits out of the democratic candidates, is this Slotin guy even going to make it to the next round? Or is this not a jungle primary situation?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#177782: Mar 12th 2017 at 9:54:54 AM

It is a jungle primary. Slotin and Orsoff (sp?) making it both to the second round would imply that no Republican candidate will be contesting it. Such happened in the 2016 Senate elections in California, but based on that polling it doesn't seem likely.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#177783: Mar 12th 2017 at 9:55:49 AM

Jungle primary. So it doesn't matter. Ossoff is running away with it on the Dem side and is leading (but not by much) overall.

The real trick is to make sure it stays civil and friendly so the non-Ossoff candidates' supporters lend their strength to his come the runoff.

EDIT- [nja]

edited 12th Mar '17 9:56:10 AM by FFShinra

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#177784: Mar 12th 2017 at 10:14:24 AM

@Ace: sure, is just that so far most of the negativity in this thread almost look like some weird self pity going on here, as the idea there is something wrong with people instead of system haivng flaw in a moment of weakness, I can understand why people will go to trump even if a bad thing to do so far and sorry for said thing, but it feel really "first world problem" in how people express about this.

if you ask me, I dont care about trump, he will go as faliure, what it really worry me is the state of politics, now is the age of th charming politician which could rise in voting for a personality rather than a solid plan, something very comon here in latin america, that dosent speak well for the states.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#177785: Mar 12th 2017 at 10:32:00 AM

@Drake: Trump wasn't a failure of democracy, quite the opposite; the average voter didn't fall for his bullshit. Unfortunately, our political system is rather undemocratic for the self proclaimed "leader of the free world", and thus Trump came into power against the will of the American people rather than because of it.

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#177786: Mar 12th 2017 at 10:35:29 AM

now is the age of the charming politician which could rise in voting for a personality rather than a solid plan

Thing is, Trump is not at all charming (nor is he a politician), so he's hardly a basis from which to draw conclusions. Trump is an aberration in US politics, pure and simple.

I've met such a real charmer — in fact, I work for him as a volunteer. He's director of the local historical preservation society, and manages the tourist railroad on which I work as a volunteer. He's very good at persuading people to make donations to the preservation trust. If he ever decided to run for public office, he could go far.

edited 12th Mar '17 10:40:57 AM by pwiegle

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#177787: Mar 12th 2017 at 10:41:24 AM

Yup. We can't really take anything from Trump, other than he's a total idiot and a lot of his supporters were racist and took kindly too his explicitly bigoted campaign.

The events and lead up that that made Donald Trump President is literally the quintessential example of a Perfect Storm, even more so than Obama in 2008, as sad as I am to admit it.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#177788: Mar 12th 2017 at 10:42:46 AM

[up]Out of curiosity, what would be the Perfect Storm for a democratic landslide next Presidential Election?

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#177789: Mar 12th 2017 at 10:46:22 AM

Another royal fuckup in the Middle East or any kind of foreign policy decision that makes SCROTUS look weak.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#177790: Mar 12th 2017 at 10:58:52 AM

Mostly it just makes me feel tired to think about, so I try to keep positive. They haven't destroyed the judiciary branch or the media just yet, so I'm thinking we're doing relatively ok.
Hey, don't forget the civil service. There are already statements on the record that show how they feel about Trump. (Hint: they don't like him, or the GOP in general).
The various agencies have been ranging from open contempt to barely concealed contempt, and slow walking is a tried and true strategy. Laws don't carry themselves out after all, and people like DeVos are not the end all/be all of their departments.
The main exception are agencies like ICE, and their mandate all but guarantees they'll attract the kind gun-ho for these times.

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
FieldMarshalFry Field Marshal of Cracked from World Internet War 1 Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Field Marshal of Cracked
#177791: Mar 12th 2017 at 11:12:40 AM

Pie on the ball again

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#177792: Mar 12th 2017 at 11:29:00 AM

So this just happened the other day: As of this moment, Bannon is currently under criminal investigation for, all of things, residency fraud. Turns out that during Trump's campaign, while he was registered to vote in Florida, he may actually have been living in California, and it's only now that this little tidbit has come to light. No clue if this will damn him in the slightest, and it says something that of everything he's done, this is the shit they bother to dig into, but hey, anything helps.tongue

edited 12th Mar '17 11:29:30 AM by kkhohoho

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#177793: Mar 12th 2017 at 11:31:10 AM

[up]Al Capone got arrested for tax evasion, after all...

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#177794: Mar 12th 2017 at 11:32:19 AM

Sounds like Al Capone going down for tax evasion.

[up]Damned [nja]s

[down]And a triple [nja][lol]

edited 12th Mar '17 11:33:01 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#177795: Mar 12th 2017 at 11:32:29 AM

Getting an Al Capone feel from that. Nab him on something minor but provable to get him momentarily out of the position of power, and then bring the real heat before he gets back.

Double [nja]'d.

edited 12th Mar '17 11:32:49 AM by Gilphon

Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#177796: Mar 12th 2017 at 11:35:10 AM

Ahahaha, after 6 months of "voter fraud is why we didn't win the popular vote, there were people registered to vote in multiple states, I tell ya!" this is absolutely fucking priceless.

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#177797: Mar 12th 2017 at 11:38:30 AM

Multiple people on his team seem to be registered in multiple states too. Edit: [nja]

edited 12th Mar '17 11:38:51 AM by fruitpork

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#177798: Mar 12th 2017 at 11:40:11 AM

Looks like the major media outlets aren't talking about this yet.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#177800: Mar 12th 2017 at 12:02:12 PM

Question: what is the extent of a presidential pardon?

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