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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Supreme Court Justices can be impeached through a similar process as a President can be, but that's literally never happened in the entire time the United States of America has been a thing.
The main reason Ryan hasn't built up a reputation as an oblivious moron (which he absolutely is) is because most of his job right now is really routine and his job before didn't have much individual power. If the media hyperfocused on him the way they focus on any potential president, people would probably notice his absolute lack of charisma and his really strange obsession with exercise. (Personally, I think he's trying to be a "man" without understanding the first thing about it.)
Ryan falling upwards into the presidency would be one of the most absurd but realistic outcomes to Trump's presidency.
I'm sure some Ryan fanboys are going to make it seem like he's been playing 4 D chess the entire time though.
Yeah, policy-wise, Trump really isn't too different from someone like Pence or Ryan. While Trump may not really care about punishing LGBTQ folk, or killing Social Security, he's perfectly willing to throw them under the bus. And of course, he's already shredding our civil service and social safety net in the name of deregulation and tax cuts for the rich. But Pence (and maybe Ryan) isn't going to blow up our foreign policy because he reads conspiracy theories. And then there's bog-standard American racism and the fever-dreams of Trump and Bannon and their ilk.
As long as the House is controlled by Republicans who are happy to use Trump's incompetence as a way to get their legislative agenda bullied through, they wouldn't ratify articles of impeachment if he had direct endorsements from Satan and Hitler.
edited 10th Mar '17 8:11:20 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I think many people also feel it'd be best to move on impeachment on grounds that are absolutely bulletproof, rather than half-ass it, fail, and make any further attempt even less likely to succeed.
Why nothing that has come out pre- or post-inauguration manages to meet that criteria is subject for a lengthy debate.
Impeaching Trump anytime before a democratic congress takes over depends entirely on Trump being enough of an idiot that he becomes a conservative liability. Entirely within the realm of possibility, but conservatives are too concerned with having a President with an extra R in his name ot worry about anything else.
Trump adviser admits to contact with DNC hacker
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Said adviser being Roger Stone, incidentally, so more like "former adviser". Still...
edited 10th Mar '17 9:28:23 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!A federal judge is blocking
Trump's new Muslim ban in favor of a refugee man trying to bring his family to the US.
God bless the Judicial Branch.
Gotta admit,I was not expecting the Judicial to be the Only Sane Man in all this
Bernie plans to flip red states that voted for Trump.
“That’s just the objective evidence. We are taking on a right-wing extremist party whose agenda is opposed time after time and on issue after issue by the vast majority of the American people," he explained. "Yet we have lost the White House, the U.S. House, the U.S. Senate, almost two-thirds of the governors’ chairs and close to 900 legislative seats across this country. How can anyone not conclude that the Democratic agenda and approach has been a failure?”

Against Trump, Pence or Ryan, though, she absolutely would be.
edited 10th Mar '17 6:35:47 PM by DingoWalley1