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IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#177226: Mar 7th 2017 at 5:54:19 PM

[up]Well... If nobody wants the title... we could uh... keep it active in the meanwhile.

edited 7th Mar '17 5:54:27 PM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#177227: Mar 7th 2017 at 6:06:05 PM

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) says that people take Pres. Trump 'too seriously', obviously referring to the Tweets alleging Frmr. Pres. Obama wiretapped him illegally.

Devin Nunes needs to be fired at the ballot box in 2018.

edited 7th Mar '17 6:10:56 PM by DingoWalley1

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#177228: Mar 7th 2017 at 6:31:37 PM

[up]Well I sure hope the peeps don't take The Donald too seriously when he decides to start a war or launch a nuke.

edited 7th Mar '17 6:31:48 PM by nightwyrm_zero

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177229: Mar 7th 2017 at 6:42:28 PM

[up][up] So that's the current bullshit excuse now? They're falling back on "C'mon he was just kidding! Lighten up squares!"

Disgusted, but not surprised
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#177230: Mar 7th 2017 at 6:43:03 PM

[up][up][up]Well, he seems to be in a safe seat (Cook PVI of R +10), so let's hope for a huge blue wave in 2018.

edited 7th Mar '17 6:43:15 PM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#177231: Mar 7th 2017 at 8:39:18 PM

Linking this more for the amusing title than anything:

Early Reports Indicate That Everyone, Literally Everyone, Hates the Republican Health Care Plan

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/07/the_reviews_are_in_paul_ryan_s_obamacare_plan_makes_everyone_want_to_barf.html

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#177232: Mar 7th 2017 at 8:40:39 PM

I do hope that a lot of Representatives lose their seats to Democrats. And that isn't the most unlikely thing, because a representative is elected by majority vote in one district. And a lot of the Republican representatives are infuriating their constituents specifically by refusing to talk to them. It doesn't matter how gerrymandered your district is if the people living there despise you.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177233: Mar 7th 2017 at 8:44:01 PM

[up] I know I wouldn't want a Dirty Coward representing me.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#177234: Mar 7th 2017 at 9:15:30 PM

Are there any Democrats holding town halls? I feel like they should do that more just to provide a contrast to Republicans. We should also see about getting potential challengers to start attending and taking questions.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#177235: Mar 7th 2017 at 9:53:46 PM

Linking this more for the amusing title than anything:

Early Reports Indicate That Everyone, Literally Everyone, Hates the Republican Health Care Plan

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/07/the_reviews_are_in_paul_ryan_s_obamacare_plan_makes_everyone_want_to_barf.html

I actually posted something about that a couple of pages back. Even Breitbart is attacking it.

Also, not everyone hates it. Paul Ryan probably doesn't. And Trump does. Mind, he probably hasn't read it and is looking for a win.

edited 7th Mar '17 9:54:56 PM by tclittle

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#177236: Mar 7th 2017 at 9:56:56 PM

Kind of makes me feel bad for Paul Ryan, honestly.

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#177237: Mar 7th 2017 at 9:58:17 PM

[up]Do not worry, that feeling will pass with the next headline that includes Paul Ryan.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#177238: Mar 7th 2017 at 10:10:45 PM

[up]"CNN BREAKING NEWS: Just today, Paul Ryan announced that it is an alternative fact that Planned Parenthood, Obamacare, and the American Care Act simply do not exist. Therefore, we should stop pretending that they do and go about our merry lives while they proceed to indirectly kills millions of innocent American citizens in the process of lining their own coffers, rather then start protesting and surely add enough incentive to pass that one particular bill that would allow the police to confiscate all of a citizen's property if passed, which Ryan would like to remind you does not actually exist. He'd also like to say that this broadcast never actually happened, and that ACA and its' brethren will continue to exist forevermore despite the fact that they won't. Which in and of itself is not apparently a fact."

edited 7th Mar '17 10:11:39 PM by kkhohoho

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#177239: Mar 7th 2017 at 10:19:20 PM

We have always been at war with Eastasia, etc., etc.

Oh God! Natural light!
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#177240: Mar 7th 2017 at 10:25:25 PM

I for one don't feel bad about that fuck at all.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#177241: Mar 7th 2017 at 10:25:51 PM

Madskillz, please stop with this "Carter was a proto-Reagan" thing after it's been handily debunked.

And for the love of all that is holy, please never use Counterpunch as a legitimate source. It is a completely wretched one, full of terrible journalism, worse scholarship and badly written articles. I've spotted a multitude of lies and falsehoods in multiple articles and they haven't gotten any better. It's utopian leftism at its worst and most toxic.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#177242: Mar 7th 2017 at 10:27:00 PM

Reposting Kostya's page bottoming question because I'm curious, too.

Are there any Democrats holding town halls? I feel like they should do that more just to provide a contrast to Republicans. We should also see about getting potential challengers to start attending and taking questions.

edited 7th Mar '17 10:27:36 PM by sgamer82

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#177243: Mar 7th 2017 at 10:27:32 PM

[up][up] Also anti-Semitism, yes?

edited 7th Mar '17 10:27:43 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#177244: Mar 7th 2017 at 10:28:07 PM

[up][up]I feel like they probably are as much as they normally do, it's just that nothing particularly newsworthy is happening at them.

edited 7th Mar '17 10:28:19 PM by Gilphon

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177245: Mar 7th 2017 at 10:38:04 PM

I don't feel an iota of sympathy for Paul Ryan either. That weasel has never come up with a single plan or proposal that wasn't steeped in bullshit unworkable Randian pseudophilosophy.

edited 7th Mar '17 10:40:46 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#177246: Mar 8th 2017 at 1:05:28 AM

Meanwhile in Los Angeles seems like the anti-housing initiative Measure S is failing.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#177247: Mar 8th 2017 at 1:18:27 AM

Madskillz, please stop with this "Carter was a proto-Reagan" thing after it's been handily debunked.

Uh, no it hasn't. Please show me where.

No one actually made a real argument to counter what I even said besides Ambar and even then it wasn't really relevant because my point was that a lot of what Reagan popularized was done by Carter not that Carter did everything Reagan did.

And for the love of all that is holy, please never use Counterpunch as a legitimate source. It is a completely wretched one, full of terrible journalism, worse scholarship and badly written articles. I've spotted a multitude of lies and falsehoods in multiple articles and they haven't gotten any better. It's utopian leftism at its worst and most toxic.

That's why I didn't cite it as my main article of evidence. It was an aside.I know that people here are almost as scared of left wing news sites as right wing news sites.

Utopian leftist sounds pretty good to me though.tongue

Hey, some of you link Fox News.

edited 8th Mar '17 1:22:17 AM by MadSkillz

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#177248: Mar 8th 2017 at 1:35:13 AM

[up] It's because, while horseshoe theory is bunk in politics, it works for news sources. There's approximately as much truth in Fox News as there is in Counterpunch or The Young Turks.

And approximately as much smugness about how much bettee they are at fact checking than the mainstream.

The only difference is one is run by bitter ideologically motivated old men and the other is run by bitter ideologically motivated young men.

Also, that rascal neoliberal Jimmy Carter, doubling the funding for education programmes, reinforcing safety measures in mining jobs, preventing employers from discrimonating against pregnant employees, advocated equal protection under the law for sexual minorities...

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#177249: Mar 8th 2017 at 2:01:15 AM

Also, that rascal neoliberal Jimmy Carter, doubling the funding for education programmes, reinforcing safety measures in mining jobs, preventing employers from discrimonating against pregnant employees, advocated equal protection under the law for sexual minorities...

See this is where you lose me because I've repeatedly acknowledged that Carter did do good things in his presidency.

I'm not accusing him of being pure evil.

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#177250: Mar 8th 2017 at 2:10:47 AM

The reason you're getting so much pushback is that you basically said there wasn't much difference between Jimmy Carter and the forefather (or at least foremost figurehead) of the modern reactionary, radical evangelical, anti-union, anti-minority, anti-LGBTQ, anti-women, anti-government movement that is the modern GOP. Even where those various antis disagree, almost all of them invoke Reagan's name.

Comparing people to Reagan in a liberal crowd is roughly equivalent to calling them pure evil. Or pure evil lite in this case.


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