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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177127: Mar 6th 2017 at 7:42:25 PM

[up]x4 Okay, that got me to laugh. [lol]

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HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#177128: Mar 6th 2017 at 8:03:44 PM

Also, Trump just launched his crusade on planned parenthood to satisfy the religious zealots

Knowledge that any child someone might have could end up as Trump would be all the incentive needed to wear a condom or pull out early.

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#177129: Mar 6th 2017 at 8:04:05 PM

I don't think I've ever seen anyone Uncle Tom as hard as he did today

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177130: Mar 6th 2017 at 8:05:48 PM

[up] Nah, even Uncle Tom would want to smack Ben Carson upside the head.

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HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#177131: Mar 6th 2017 at 8:07:16 PM

It was at that moment that Ben Carson knew... he fucked up.

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#177132: Mar 6th 2017 at 8:10:53 PM

So honestly any lie that Trumpkins will eat hook line and sinker will be accepted who wants to bet next Trump will say that Democrats are all secretly working for Putin?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177133: Mar 6th 2017 at 8:12:50 PM

[up] He already has. He's gone off on President Obama talking to Putin in the past (y'know cuz he was the fucking POTUS!) and Chuck Schumer being photographed with a Russian diplomat.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#177134: Mar 6th 2017 at 8:19:04 PM

Trump wants everyone to forget Russia likes him and his fake hair, sad!

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#177135: Mar 6th 2017 at 8:55:32 PM

It's a shame. Trump could use his Cult of Personality to actually turn the Republicans into decent policy-makers by forcing their base to revolt against them unless they do what he wants supposing those things were actually good.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177136: Mar 6th 2017 at 9:00:15 PM

[up] Barring those supporters who support him because they believe he's as awful as they are. Recall how some of them flipped their shit over a generic "Happy Hannukah" tweet.

It's a tad distressing that the more vocal amongst "disillusioned Trump supporters" are disillusioned because Trump isn't being enough of an authoritarian. Such as those who wanted him to lock up HRC.

It would be like that Stonecutter episode from The Simpsons. Their devotion to The Chosen One Homer only lasted as long as he didn't threaten their pointless hedonism and frivolity. The moment he actually tried to change that, they quit.

edited 6th Mar '17 9:04:16 PM by M84

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#177137: Mar 6th 2017 at 9:03:31 PM

So if the Republican Party didn't have buyer's remorse before, they sure do now. Trump has backed them into a corner- either accept a watered down version of Obamacare, or reject it and keep Obamacare. Either choice pisses off the teaparty and basically hands 2018 to the Democrats. The teaparty wont accept anything short of eliminating the ACA entirely, yet moderate voters like their benefits and subsidies. This positions the Dems to take back the House. Winning the House in 2018 wont save the ACA, sadly, but it will help stem any further damage, and position progressives to win elections in 2020 in a way that they haven't experienced since the 1920's (I don't mean centrist Democrats, I mean progressives). Play our cards right, and we can eventually take back the Congress. Granted, that will require a level of leadership that, so far, we haven't seen on the left...

The main concession is the individual mandate. Without it, insurance is certain to become more expensive, because as healthier people leave, costs go up while revenue goes down. "Risk Pools", Paul Ryan's replacement for the mandate, won't fix it. This is a problem that, for the Republicans, has no solution.

Might as well grab some popcorn, sit back, and watch them dig themselves ever deeper...

The irony here is that it's Trump doing this to them. I can't decide if I want the R's to accept Trump's plan, which will hurt more voters overall, weakening his support even further, or reject Trump's plan, which will at least keep the ACA in place a little longer...

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#177138: Mar 6th 2017 at 9:37:27 PM

I want the latter. If the ACA goes people will die.

iflewaway someone from somewhere Since: Dec, 2016
someone
#177139: Mar 6th 2017 at 10:45:34 PM

Not that the Republicans care. Even if people start dying due to their ineptitude, they'll find a way to blame the Democrats. It always works out for them.

edited 6th Mar '17 11:05:38 PM by iflewaway

something
Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#177140: Mar 7th 2017 at 1:20:17 AM

I don't think we will win the 2020 election. Despite clear ineptitude apparently his approval rating is at least 40%.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177141: Mar 7th 2017 at 1:23:36 AM

[up]TBF, it has only been less than two months. Once the administration actually tries its hand at economic policy or is faced with its first real crisis...

It is also worth noting that 40% is pretty damn low for a newly inaugurated POTUS. I suspect a lot of that is due to stubborn Trump voters not willing to admit they may have made a bad call at the polling booth.

A lot can happen in four years. Hell, a lot can happen in one year.

edited 7th Mar '17 1:25:04 AM by M84

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#177142: Mar 7th 2017 at 1:35:51 AM

His approval ratings dipped into the 40's in a record eight days, IIRC.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#177143: Mar 7th 2017 at 1:46:02 AM

It's been up and down depending on the poll.

Some say he's below 40 % already.

I think Democrats just need to put someone that's charismatic and new on-stage to win.

I think Bernie could win it but he's too old and the Democratic establishment is determined to keep him contained.

Elizabeth Warren would be my choice. But Republicans are probably anticipating that.

I think my Senator, Kamala Harris, might be a good one although she's still a bit new.A left wing black Indian female might make the GOP's head explode and seeing someone so diverse destroy the alt-right's favorite orange man would make my life.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177144: Mar 7th 2017 at 1:53:15 AM

[up] I just really hope it's not Tulsi Gabbard. tongue

Disgusted, but not surprised
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#177145: Mar 7th 2017 at 1:58:14 AM

I'm afraid that if the Dems take too big of a risk, we'll all get screwed again.

Elizabeth Warren does not want to run for POTUS.

I don't care what gender the candidate is, I just care if they're not full of it and have a realistic plan to fixing things and helping people.

edited 7th Mar '17 2:00:38 AM by BearyScary

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177146: Mar 7th 2017 at 2:04:32 AM

[up] Whoever the Democratic Party candidate ends up being, their platform is probably going to be more or less "fixing the last four years' worth of fuckups"

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#177147: Mar 7th 2017 at 2:10:24 AM

Eeyup. -_-

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#177148: Mar 7th 2017 at 2:19:14 AM

One of the most frustrating paradoxes of the Presidency is that most of the people who arguably have the qualifications to do a decent job as POTUS are also too humble, too aware of their own flaws, believe focusing on their current responsibilities is more important, and/or have no desire to deal with the stress. As someone else mentioned on this thread, it takes a certain degree of pride to think "Yes, I am the best person to handle a position of incredible power".

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#177149: Mar 7th 2017 at 2:21:02 AM

That makes sense.

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#177150: Mar 7th 2017 at 2:40:22 AM

I mean, it's not like the Republicans have been good policymakers for a while now. The meme of Republican interference with trade unions, dismantling of social security systems and deregulation goes back to the Hoover administration - and while they did have one competent President after that, the Republican ticket from 1930-onward has been a cavalcade of the very worst the United States has to offer. And Ike.

Saying the Republicans need to go back to being a 'sane' party is rolling back the clock to before the Hoover days.

edited 7th Mar '17 2:41:16 AM by math792d

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.

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