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Boston Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#176801: Mar 3rd 2017 at 10:49:00 AM

It's gotten to be a little ... obvious ... when they're doing so. Is that really the only play in their handbook?

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#176802: Mar 3rd 2017 at 10:50:20 AM

The campaign ads in 2018 are going to be something. The staffers have so much to choose from and have to get into 15 seconds. And, if the Clinton campaign is any indication, probably should spell out the details. I don't envy the guys who'll have that job. Edit: Nevermind it is a job...

[up]The push back on that bill to privatize all federal land probably spooked them. That's in addition to the immediate post-election protests and the actions that everyone is seeing. The bridge has been burned.

edited 3rd Mar '17 10:52:31 AM by CenturyEye

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#176803: Mar 3rd 2017 at 10:51:39 AM

[up][up][up] So, what's being debated in Congress right now? Considering the Republicans are waiting for Trump's Budget, and have "lost" their Health Care plan, I don't think anything super important is being discussed right now.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#176805: Mar 3rd 2017 at 11:19:29 AM

And it was hacked at the time.

In his case, was use of the email illegal or just hypocritical?

edited 3rd Mar '17 11:21:40 AM by sgamer82

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#176806: Mar 3rd 2017 at 11:22:46 AM

The budget is the important one. It's being debated behind the scenes, you can be sure. Love to be a fly on that wall.

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#176807: Mar 3rd 2017 at 11:53:00 AM

I keep hearing tragic stories about the airports (mostly in NYC for some reason) detaining/deporting people. This is probably a stupid question, but why is this still going on? Last I heard, Trump's travel ban EO was still overruled by the courts.

edited 3rd Mar '17 11:53:47 AM by speedyboris

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#176808: Mar 3rd 2017 at 11:54:16 AM

Because those particular customs agents don't recognize the legitimacy of the court.

Oh really when?
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#176809: Mar 3rd 2017 at 11:56:33 AM

It's impossible to enforce that court order universally when the immigration enforcement community has a lot of black shirts who respect Trump's word over the word of a court that rules against him, because he's letting them off the leash.

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#176810: Mar 3rd 2017 at 11:59:17 AM

So basically, they feel like they can do whatever they want? Lovely.

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#176811: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:00:36 PM

ICE and other agencies are still stepping up anti-immigration activity all across the board. There are plenty of laws they could use besides the EO. And its not just airports: A "Dreamer" was arrested after Criticizing Trump in public.

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#176812: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:01:17 PM

Makes me get into a thought experiment wondering about the feasibility of some sort of paramilitary gendarme that answers to the judicial branch and exists to enforce court orders among law enforcement agencies.

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#176813: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:01:28 PM

[up][up][up]I'd love to see the moment karma catches upon them when the Trump regime ends, their terror knowing that they will even more powerless than they ever thought.

edited 3rd Mar '17 12:02:06 PM by Luigisan98

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carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
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#176814: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:01:34 PM

Friedland, Clifton, and Canby have made their decisions, now let them enforce it!

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#176815: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:08:22 PM

The secret is everything is a distraction, and everything is important. We've got to watch literally everything right now.

And yeah, ICE has definitely felt like it has permission to be more aggressive in regards to enforcing their duties. And with a country as big as ours, it's damn near a guarantee that some TSA agent or other is going to feel emboldened enough to detain anyone who looks "suspicious" without some very clear and very strong consequences for doing so.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#176816: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:17:51 PM

...Can anyone tell me how much Nihilism Trump supporters have again? I'm kinda getting questions in regards to the mental states of the ICE.

edited 3rd Mar '17 12:17:59 PM by Luigisan98

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#176817: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:20:13 PM

Well, they enforce immigration and customs. That might attract a certain type of person. A very motivated type.

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#176818: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:22:34 PM

[up] Yeah, but if they feel they've suffered, why they would inflict it on others as well?

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#176819: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:22:34 PM

Nihilism is all about "nothing matters, so why bother caring" and people who are attracted to law enforcement tend to care an awful lot about things. Specifically, law and order. How they care and what they think is acceptable in pursuit of those goes varies from person to person and also from environment to environment.

[up]Pretty sure "suffering" is not really an integral part of nihilism.

edited 3rd Mar '17 12:23:11 PM by AceofSpades

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#176820: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:24:29 PM

Yeah, but if they feel they've suffered, why they would inflict it on others as well?

Because it feels good. The cycle of violence is, like, Bullying 101.

edited 3rd Mar '17 12:24:49 PM by TobiasDrake

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#176821: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:30:19 PM

But why even for a Liberal city, there are ICE officers who did that. Collaborators? Blind obedience? Do they do it out of orders? Or to inflict suffering?

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#176822: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:31:08 PM

Just because it's a liberal city doesn't mean that everyone there is a liberal.

As far as individual motivations go, some people might just enjoy having power over others, others might be more along the lines of Just Following Orders, while still others might genuinely think it's the right thing to do.

At least, that's how I see it.

edited 3rd Mar '17 12:32:44 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#176823: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:43:30 PM

Organisations often develop their own cultures.

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#176824: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:48:01 PM

E.U. Lawmakers Call for End to Visa-Free Travel for Americans: " The European Parliament has passed a nonbinding resolution calling for the reintroduction of visa requirements for American citizens, raising the stakes in a long-running battle over the United States’ refusal to grant visa-free access to citizens of five European Union countries.

In the vote on Thursday, European lawmakers played tit-for-tat in their dispute with the United States, demanding restrictions on American travelers unless the Trump administration lifts travel requirements for citizens of Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Poland and Romania."

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#176825: Mar 3rd 2017 at 12:50:50 PM

[up] What the shit?! European countries too?

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