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CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#176677: Mar 2nd 2017 at 10:28:06 AM

More on the...Trump slump? US tourism industry fears downturn

Stephen Mumford, a professor of metaphysics at Durham University in north-east England, had some money to burn thanks to a large research fellowship grant he was awarded in October 2016. Always eager to travel to other countries and present his research, he began making arrangements for trips to several academic conferences in the United States.

Then Donald Trump won the November 2016 election.

Mumford started to hear stories he didn't like - like the British Muslim school teacher who was separated from his students and removed from a flight bound for the US, or that incoming travellers were being asked to turn over their mobile phones and social media passwords.

Last month, Mumford made what he says was a difficult decision: to cancel all his planned travel to the US.

"I don't want to go to a conference if other people are excluded simply because they belong to a particular group," he says.

"I don't feel I can just walk in and think, 'I'm OK', and forget the guy behind me can't come in just because he's a Muslim. That's being a party to the unfairness."

Thousands of professors around the globe have pledged not to travel to the US.

A growing list of Canadian schools who once made regular trips across the border for sports, music and other educational events are cancelling their journeys for fear that foreign-born students could be singled out.

In Philadelphia, at least one large conference worth an estimated $7m in revenue to the city has been cancelled, and the tourism board of New York City recently reversed its pre-election projection that the city would see an increase of 400,000 international travellers in 2017.

The board now predicts 300,000 fewer foreign tourists will visit the Big Apple this year than did in 2016.

The online booking site Kayak reported that searches by UK citizens for US destinations had "fallen off a cliff", and that hotel prices in cities like San Francisco, New York and Las Vegas dropped between 32-39%.

Hopper, another travel site, released data showing that searches for flights to America had dropped globally an average of 22%.

Harteveldt points to a survey his firm conducted weeks before the executive order took place, which showed that in 15 countries around the world about 20% of the respondents reported that as a result of the presidential election they were either somewhat or highly unlikely to travel to the US or had actually cancelled a planned trip.

"The fact that in 15 countries so many people had either cancelled trips or had such an unfavourable view of the United States was really alarming to me as an analyst," he says.

"Events that transpired during the presidential election just created a very bad impression of the US in many people's minds."

Lori, a mother of two boys in Edmonton, Alberta, says they used to make regular trips to the Twin Cities in Minnesota. After Trump's executive orders on immigration, her sons urged her to cancel a trip in March.

"For our oldest, it was out of outrage: the majority of his friends are either visible minority immigrants/refugees, or the children of immigrants or refugees; some of them are Muslim," she wrote in an email.

"For our 11 year old, it was fear: he equates the word 'America' with violence and discrimination against innocent people now."

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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#176678: Mar 2nd 2017 at 10:29:46 AM

[up]To the surprise of absolutely no one.

I told y'all that anti-Americanism was gonna skyrocket because of Trump. This is just Stage 1.

edited 2nd Mar '17 10:43:25 AM by PhysicalStamina

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#176679: Mar 2nd 2017 at 10:39:03 AM

I mean, in the West anti-Americanism is usually directed at the government, and not individual Americans (who don't act like stupid tourist stereotypes, but we still love them because money). I don't think that will change, especially if the majority of Americans make it clear that they didn't like Trump from the start/have realized that Trump was a terrible mistake.

....The provincial tourism departments in Canada are totally going to try and poach those tourists off of the US.

edited 2nd Mar '17 10:41:07 AM by Rationalinsanity

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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#176680: Mar 2nd 2017 at 10:44:48 AM

I mean, in the West anti-Americanism is usually directed at the government, and not individual Americans

I dunno how much I buy that, to be perfectly honest.

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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#176681: Mar 2nd 2017 at 10:58:30 AM

[up][up]Get some beaches with sun and temperatures over 25°C and no giant scary super-moose and I'm coming over tongue

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#176682: Mar 2nd 2017 at 11:02:45 AM

The giant scary super-meese aren't generally anywhere near beaches. Or, y'know, densely populated areas.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#176683: Mar 2nd 2017 at 11:05:27 AM

One source tells me both Ds and Rs are quietly making calls around town to see who might serve on an independent commission on

Source says there's no guarantee that such a commission would be created but both sides want to be prepared if it goes that way.

https://twitter.com/eamonjavers/status/837370250974924800

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#176684: Mar 2nd 2017 at 11:27:05 AM

I like the direction this is moving. Keep making noise, people. There's only so deep the GOP can bury their heads. It's working.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#176685: Mar 2nd 2017 at 11:46:38 AM

Trump states that he has "total confidence" in Sessions, and that he shouldn't recuse himself from a Russian investigation.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#176686: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:14:26 PM

[up]And if Trump has confidence in you, then that means you might as well have no confidence at all.smile

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#176687: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:19:43 PM
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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#176688: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:20:21 PM

But this is directly from Cheeto's mouth.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#176689: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:24:06 PM

[up]And again, coming 'directly from Cheeto's mouth' doesn't mean shit. It possibly means even less shit than if one of his cronies said it, and that's saying a lot. (Of shit.)

edited 2nd Mar '17 12:24:21 PM by kkhohoho

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#176690: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:38:15 PM

Sessions is holding a press conference in about 20 minutes, according to CNN.

edited 2nd Mar '17 12:39:41 PM by Rationalinsanity

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#176691: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:40:25 PM

[up] Lemme guess, his resignations, denying the accusations or making some imperialistic boast?

Also, continuing from Tom Clancy, it feels so except that the bad guys this time are the Conservatives...strange right?

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#176693: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:44:10 PM

[up] That good or bad? Could it be an attempt to discredit him?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#176694: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:46:32 PM

Or get him out of hiding so he can be dealt with...

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#176695: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:48:55 PM

EDIT: nm

edited 2nd Mar '17 12:55:47 PM by speedyboris

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#176696: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:50:10 PM

[up][up][up] That could be good or bad, depending on how hard they grill him.

[up][up][up][up][up][up] There are 3 possible outcomes to that: He recuses himself from the investigation, suggesting Congress get a Special Investigator on Trump's Russia ties (The most likely), he defies Congress and declares an end to all Russia Investigations (also possible), or he announces his resignation/firing and apologizes for any wrong doing he may or may not have committed (the least likely but not impossible option).

[up] I doubt it; that would've been major news if it was true. From what I've heard, he's just in hiding.

edited 2nd Mar '17 12:51:33 PM by DingoWalley1

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#176697: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:53:27 PM

That's what I've heard too. His identity was compromised so he went into hiding.

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#176698: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:55:19 PM

Okay, I swear I read a news story that he died. But I can't find it now. Disregard my previous post.

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#176699: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:55:22 PM

[up]x5 Exactly what I was thinking...maybe via some sort of accidental polonium ingestion.

edited 2nd Mar '17 12:56:15 PM by nightwyrm_zero

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#176700: Mar 2nd 2017 at 12:58:29 PM

Steele is too cautious to go to the US but he's willing to testify if it meets his security standards.

The Senate wants to do on some neutral ground like the U.K. He's safer there than in the US.


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