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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#176501: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:05:57 PM

So, Trump just said he's creating VOICE (Victims of Immigrant Crime Engagement)

Yay, Fun With Accronyms

New Survey coming this weekend!
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#176502: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:06:10 PM

Trump is actually doing fairly okay. Half the stuff he's saying are broadly good ideas. Too bad they're either not going to work or contradict Republican doctrine.

[up]So we're getting an American Gestapo. Lovely.

edited 28th Feb '17 7:06:36 PM by Kostya

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#176503: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:13:19 PM

How long before they're nicknamed Silencers?

Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#176504: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:13:42 PM

Been a while since I've been here.

Just finished watching Trump's speech. I'll give him credit for managing to not make the speech all about him, but I still had to guffaw when he asked Congress to quickly confirm his Supreme Court nominee.

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#176505: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:15:26 PM

That was probably one of the best speeches I've ever seen from him. He did a much better job staying on topic than I expected.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#176506: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:15:54 PM

Trump is so desperate to create a bogeyman to pin the blame on and divert the anger towards it.

This surely has Bannon all over it.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Demonic_Braeburn Yankee Doodle Dandy from Defective California Since: Jan, 2016
Yankee Doodle Dandy
#176507: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:16:39 PM

Who is doing the Democrat's response?

Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.
Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#176508: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:20:46 PM

A bunch of platitudes, but no proposed mechanisms for the not-terrible goals. And, of course, some terrible goals too.

And a proposal to replace Obamacare with Obamacare.

EDIT: Steve Beshear, former Kentucky Governor, is doing the response

edited 28th Feb '17 7:22:36 PM by Tangent128

Do you highlight everything looking for secret messages?
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#176509: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:25:54 PM

[up]AKA the guy who succeeded in selling Obamacare to that red state, as I recall.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#176510: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:28:44 PM

I kept looking at Paul Ryan's side during the speech. What was on there, a punch bowl?

The legend has returned.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#176511: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:34:30 PM

The Faces of Confidence.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#176512: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:37:40 PM

[up]...A couple of those officers look like they are trying to decide by how much they need to lead a moving target.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#176513: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:51:13 PM

The guy on the lower right looks really mad.

Do not obey in advance.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#176514: Feb 28th 2017 at 7:51:17 PM

So, I just read Trump's speech, and even though there's a lot of bad things in there, surprisingly, there are some good things in there as well (specifically the reshaping of the FDA so that it's faster and the want to improve Infrastructure).

The Problem is, though, that even if the good things are introduced to Congress, none of it would ever survive the House. Sure, a lot of what Trump wants would make it through the Senate (even with Democrat Support on some things), but the Uber Objectivist-Libertarian Tea Party, that forces all other House Republicans to kowtow to their will, would never spend 1 Trillion Dollars without massive spending cuts everywhere else, would rather eliminate the FDA entirely then rework it, is against creating Tax Credits for health because it's a 'New Entitlement', so on and so fourth. Most of Trump's plan from his speech, even the vile things Republicans would normally support (like School Choice), can't pass the House without massive Cuts elsewhere; Trump doesn't want to cut Entitlement Reforms, Republicans don't want to cut Military Spending, and the cuts in Government Bureaucracy would not be enough for them.

Basically, either the House goes Democrat in 2018, or Trump will literally get nothing done economic-wise for 4 years. And, considering we're nearing another Debt Ceiling Crises soon, that'd completely wreck the economy.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#176515: Feb 28th 2017 at 8:04:52 PM

[up] So nothing most of us didn't already know: nothing good is going to happen because of Trump's administration. If anything good does happen it will be in spite of it.

Even in the areas where he does (seem) to have good intentions, his sheer incompetence, ignorance, refusal to admit blame or acknowledge information that defies his world view, reluctance to listen to anyone who isn't a simpering Yes-man, and (above all) his refusal to learn will prevent anything being accomplished. The biggest obstacle towards "success" for a Trump administration isn't the Democratic Party, the Tea Party diehards, the Muslims he scapegoats, Obama, Hillary Clinton, or whatever bogeyman he thinks of next week. It's Trump himself.

edited 28th Feb '17 8:10:19 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#176516: Feb 28th 2017 at 8:24:51 PM

Are people really praising this speech as evidence of being presidential as if we're all just going to forget about how the past month has gone? The worst part about this speech is that it's going to make people forget just how rancid this administration has been and will be.

And call me cynical, but I'm disgusted by him using a soldier's widow to score political points after his recklessness and impulsiveness got that soldier killed in the first place. This is a ploy to make himself look good. He doesn't actually care. He just knows that paying tribute to a fallen soldier is an instant applause line, so people will temporarily forget that he's to blame.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#176517: Feb 28th 2017 at 8:33:41 PM

[up] I guess some people are desperate for any signs of normalcy or basic human decency in the guy who is in the Oval Office with the nuclear football. I know I was when Trump gave a seemingly "presidential" speech when he won the election. That ship has since sailed.

Bringing up the Yemen raid for points? Yeah, that was low. Especially since the late guy's father wants an investigation.

Disgusted, but not surprised
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#176518: Feb 28th 2017 at 8:35:28 PM

CNN is kissing his ass right now.

Bernie's response is good though. How does the 74 year old independent have more fire than half the Democratic Party?

https://m.facebook.com/senatorsanders/

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#176519: Feb 28th 2017 at 8:38:47 PM

Besides, it's just something Trump does every few weeks. He spouts an endless stream of bullshit and acts like a Spoiled Brat, then periodically acts vaguely presentible and everyone's so eager to try to normalize the situation that he basically gets to hit the Reset Button with everyone who wants to pretend we didn't elect a criminally incompetent, incompetently criminal, Russian-puppeted sex criminal.

Once again, this is NOT normal. Nothing about the current situation is normal.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#176520: Feb 28th 2017 at 8:38:59 PM

[up][up][up][up] No, Trump is not presidential, and he is not a good President (or person). But, I will say "This is Good" or "Trump did this Good" when(/if) he does something good. There is a lot to despise about his Policies and Actions so far, and we must continue to despise any future policies and actions he takes, but to despise good ideas just because they come from him is overkill. Republican Commentators and Politicians did that to Obama, and look at how things are now; their party is full of Angry, Moronic Racists who will not take anything less then exactly what they want, or they will destroy their own party and politicians, and will willingly associate with Anti-Democratic forces to achieve their goals. I've already started seeing a number of Republicans/Alt-Righters say they will not support Trump, or will support his impeachment, if he does allow non-criminal illegals to become Citizens/Residents.

Hate the man, hate his bad policies, don't hate good policies just because they are from him.

edited 28th Feb '17 8:39:28 PM by DingoWalley1

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#176521: Feb 28th 2017 at 8:39:57 PM

For crying out loud, Trump just the other fucking day tried to claim that threats to the Jewish community were a False Flag Operation. I guess he doesn't feel the need to use the "global elitist" dogwhistle anymore.

[up] Trying to find good policies among Trump's bad ones is like digging through a pile of toxic shit to find a tiny gold nugget. And even the nugget is probably toxic at its core (see Trump's original infrastructure proposal which was more or less all graft).

If the Trump administration pushes forth a reasonable policy or nominee or whatever, then by all means support it! The Democratic senators did just that when Trump actually picked a decent VA head. But for the most part, the Democratic Congresspeople haven't had to worry about that: nearly all of Trump's policies and picks have been bad ones or badly implemented.

[up][up] OMFG. He is like a Spoiled Brat who throws tantrums and bullies the other kids but gets away with it by showing off Puppy-Dog Eyes whenever he thinks the adults are about to lose patience with him.

edited 28th Feb '17 8:49:09 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#176522: Feb 28th 2017 at 9:10:23 PM

Responses to Trump from one of my state's reps and the senators.

High marks for Trump’s tone, but Idaho’s GOP representatives want more details

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/article135636303.html

Our state also has its third potential candidate for governor, though there no Democrats announced yet:

Ahlquist makes it official: In campaign for governor, he starts 97-town tour this week

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article135627508.html

Spicer let out a smear piece on the Politico reporter who reported on White House leaks, claiming that the reporter laughed about the death of the Navy SEAL who died recently.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/02/28/the-white-houses-politico-slime-job-from-start-to-finish/?utm_term=.d12c196dc8b5

edited 28th Feb '17 9:27:45 PM by sgamer82

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#176523: Feb 28th 2017 at 9:33:52 PM

Trump is old: age or disease will take him at some point.

We just need to be patient.

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#176524: Feb 28th 2017 at 9:41:25 PM

Betsy DeVos responded to outcry over her remarks on black colleges in her Twitter.

Tweet 1

#HBC Us are such an important piece of the fabric of American history—one that encompasses some of our nation's greatest citizens.

Tweet 2

Providing an alternative option to students denied the right to attend a quality school is the legacy of #HBC Us.

Tweet 3

But your history was born not out of mere choice, but out of necessity, in the face of racism, and in the aftermath of the Civil War.

Tweet 4

#HBC Us remain at the forefront of opening doors that had previously been closed to so many.

Final Tweet

We need more good schools. We need more good teachers. And no child should be denied the opportunity to enter a great school. Not one.

edited 28th Feb '17 9:41:43 PM by sgamer82

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#176525: Feb 28th 2017 at 9:43:47 PM

[up][up]Oh really now?

TRUMP: Hey folks, I just had my 120th birthday and I just want everyone, yes, I just want everyone to know that after outlawing any and all elections, we are celebrating our fiftieth year of Making America Great Again, and I am told that we will finally achieve this, yes, we we will finally achieve this goal as soon as yesterday. But before that, Old Man Trump needs his nappies.

(JK. Mostly.)

edited 28th Feb '17 9:44:13 PM by kkhohoho


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