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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#176401: Feb 28th 2017 at 10:14:30 AM

Someone pointed out something interesting about Trump to me. If you watch interviews he's done, he rarely, if ever, directly says yes or no to a yes or no question. He always gives a barely relevant rambly answer about himself, regardless of the question.

This might explain how inconsistent he is, since he apparently can't give a completely straight answer to any question he's asked.

edited 28th Feb '17 10:15:30 AM by Zendervai

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#176402: Feb 28th 2017 at 10:16:09 AM

[up]And he almost always turns the question back towards himself.

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#176403: Feb 28th 2017 at 10:16:25 AM

A number of psychologists believe Trump really does suffer from Narcisistic Personality Disorder.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#176404: Feb 28th 2017 at 10:21:49 AM

[up] No.Shit.

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FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#176405: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:26:57 AM

I'd even dare say that his physical appearance strikes me as being uncannily similar to adults with Down Syndrome.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#176406: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:33:51 AM

I've known a few people with DS. They all had compassion.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#176407: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:34:13 AM

[up][up] Can you maybe not?

Really, I'd prefer if we shied away from attempts at armchair diagnoses. His policies and general behavior are fodder enough.

edited 28th Feb '17 11:34:32 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#176408: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:34:32 AM

Going back to the "Trump can't read" theory, my guess is that he's both too stupid and vain to admit he needs reading glasses. The guy 70, after all.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#176409: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:34:53 AM

And now we're crossing into some really kind of shitty territory regarding speculating on mental disorders. Guys, can we reign that in? He's a selfish, idiotic asshole. This doesn't mean he's got a mental defect and quite frankly this kind of speculation is kind of bigoted. It also goes a long way in absolving him of responsibility for his poorest decisions; Mental defects and being a terrible person aren't the same thing.

I get that people are interested in this kind of thing, but we're verging on tasteless, here. Especially with that Down Syndrome comment.

Actually related, I wonder if there's anyone who can force him to give a yes or no answer.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#176410: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:37:46 AM

Also, can we quit the junk food news for a while? This thread is being swamped by all manner of clickbaity junk. Wanking about the size of Trump's crowds carries zero practical significance.

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#176411: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:40:46 AM

Yeah, I'm going to have to second the request that we refrain from trying to use mental illness as an excuse for why Trump's a shit. Mental illness does not make someone a shit, nor does being a shit require someone to have mental illness. The thorough demonization that is the Mental Illness = Evil association is a toxic cultural meme that exists, as many such memes do, for the sole purpose of excusing the efforts to remove a group of people from society for not meeting an arbitrary standard of normalcy.

The same efforts have been made for the exclusion of minorities, women, the poor, the LGBT community, etc. for ages.

As a care-giver for a paranoid schizophrenic, this is a bit of a sore spot for me.

edited 28th Feb '17 11:41:46 AM by TobiasDrake

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#176412: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:40:49 AM

[up][up] I'd say that was relevant back when he was making a scene about it, but I suppose there are more important matters now.

edited 28th Feb '17 11:41:37 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#176413: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:43:57 AM

As the person who first mentioned a mental condition in connection to Trump, I apologize, although in my defense there is some actual evidence that has been cited. But all this is probably going to result in a derail, so lets stop.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#176414: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:47:08 AM

[up]x5 REPORTER: Mr.Trump, let me get right to the point. Do you exist?

TRUMP: Well Dave, can I call you Dave, that is a good question, that is a very good question, isn't it? Do I exist? Honestly Dave, I don't think, yeah, I don't think I'm qualified to answer that, but I'll tell you what I am qualified to answer, and that is whether or not we can Make America Great Again; do you know what the answer is Dave?

REPORTER: Uh, Trump, you're changing the subject again—

TRUMP: FAKE NEWS, REPORTER TRASH, GET HIM OUT OF HERE! Sad.

edited 28th Feb '17 12:05:33 PM by kkhohoho

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#176415: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:04:39 PM

It's just a damn shame that the US' first president with a potentially blatant mental condition had to be such a train wreck.

Imagine all the good an extremely high-functioning autistic or Aspie could have done.

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#176416: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:05:12 PM

[up]

Just drop it.

A British answer to the question, why don't politicians answer the question. Whether it applies to Trump...well...

edited 28th Feb '17 12:06:19 PM by TerminusEst

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#176417: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:06:41 PM

[up][up]STOP IT. Good Lord.

edited 28th Feb '17 12:06:59 PM by AceofSpades

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#176418: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:17:02 PM

Gonna add myself to the list of people who're not ok with the armchair mental diagnoses. Unless he's actually diagnosed properly, he's just an evil bastard. And if he is diagnosed properly and found to have a condition, he is an evil bastard who also happens to have mental health issues.

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#176419: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:21:08 PM

Politico: New NSC chief pushed Trump to moderate his language on terrorism

Brannon's going to pounce on this guy faster than you can say his name. sad

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#176420: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:22:06 PM

[up][up]Exactly. Trying to attribute his evilness to having a mental disorder would be an insult to people who actually have mental disorders or autism ({raises hand}) or what have you. He's just Stupid Evil. No more, no less.

edited 28th Feb '17 12:22:40 PM by kkhohoho

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#176421: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:23:29 PM

So it looks like Trump deflected blame from the botched SEAL raid onto the military brass.

On the list of bad ideas, that has to be somewhere around "installing speed bumps on highways" or "packaging drain cleaner in ambiguously labeled 2-liter soda bottles".

He's the President of the United States, that means taking responsibility if you make a bad call, even if you made the best decision possible with the information you had at the time. Is that fair? Perhaps not, but that's the job Trump signed up for even though he probably doesn't realize it.

edited 28th Feb '17 12:30:01 PM by Falrinn

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#176422: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:25:04 PM

[up] Hopefully this leads to ever increasing numbers of the SEALS who support Trump reconsidering their views.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#176423: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:27:59 PM

Going to have to agree with not calling Trump mentally ill until he's diagnosed as such. He's definitely delusional, in the catch-all, "views don't match reality" sense, though, because there's really no other word to describe his truly singular level of cognitive dissonance, and his policywanking can best be described as the ranting of a Boisterous Weakling.

edited 28th Feb '17 12:28:46 PM by CrimsonZephyr

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#176424: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:30:19 PM

I know I participated in the armchair diagnosis a while back, but yeah, it shouldn't be done. I apologize for my hypocrisy.

Although the idea that Trump needs reading glasses but doesn't get them out of pride is one I'm totally on board with. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

And the thing about no straight answers. I thought about it a bit more. Many politicians do that because they don't want to be locked into a certain position without knowing exactly what that position actually is. Trump, on the other hand, has spent his entire life without saying anything clearly. He's like the nastiest stereotype of the real estate agent, the one who almost, but not quite, lies about the condition of the house so they can foist the sale on you. Which fits, I guess, but someone who does that habitually is impossible to trust, because, as has been noted before, they'll say whatever they want to make the person right in front of them, at that moment, like them so they can make the sale.

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#176425: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:35:24 PM

[up][up][up] Of all the people to blame, the last people you want to blame are the Generals who followed orders for something like this. He actually has someone to blame this time (if the rumors are true): His Defense Secretary, James "Mad Dog" Mattis, who basically tricked (to put it lightly) Trump into going through with it (again, if the rumors are true).

Either the rumors aren't true, or he has such blind loyalty to Mattis that even if he wanted to, he couldn't pin anything bad on him.

edited 28th Feb '17 12:35:37 PM by DingoWalley1


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